Sinestro vs Magneto Episode Transcript

Transcription of our Sinsestro vs Magneto episode

[Music] hi and welcome to the dynamic duel podcast a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in step based battle simulations I’m Johnny DC and I’m his twin brother marvelous Joe and in this episode it’s a duel episode we’re pitting Sinestro against Magneto and of course this ties into our Dark Phoenix review from our last episode right yeah I’m really looking forward to see who would win in this match because they’re both insanely powerful villains who have like really compelling character arcs from the comics I know some people were expecting us to pick magneto against dr. Polaris yes yeah but those guys are so similar that I feel like it wouldn’t be an interesting fight because what you’d end up getting is like a Hawkeye vs. Green Arrow situation where the characters are identical and the match ends up being like a coin toss yeah that’s so fun this is gonna be much more interesting yeah because it’s characters with similar power levels but with different power sets altogether yeah well get into more of why we think this is a good matchup later on in the episode before that we’re gonna break down the news items from the past week of which there’s not much new kind of slow yeah Lobo is getting his own spin-off show on the Sci Fi Channel from Krypton which is also on that channel and the Avengers are getting their own video game yeah we don’t usually comment on video game news but I feel like this is a big thing to talk about it was a pretty decent trailer so there is a big lead up to it for sure I think it just kind of disappointed everyone what really I guess that’s the word on the street you huh yeah we’ll get into it yeah as always our segment times are in our episode description so feel free to jump right to whatever topic you want to listen to right before we get into the news we want to give me a big huge shout out to those who have rate us and reviewed us on the Apple podcasts platform as you know we’re trying to get to 200 reviews because at that point we’ve become eligible to become critics on Rotten Tomatoes and have our reviews of the Marvel and DC movies count toward those films official tomato meter yeah we don’t have any new ratings we’re still at 110 but we do have a few belated shoutouts to people who have given us reviews yeah we want to give thanks to NRA for 13 for leaving this review as well as circus loving and his sons Harry and Tasker you guys get special shout-out typically we say that this show is geared toward adults because of the language that we just can’t help ourselves from saying it’s so hard okay the kids know these words nowadays right they should it it’s not what Superman would do this episode for you Harry and Tasker I’m gonna try my hardest not to say any swear words yep this is for you too gonna be especially hard considering that this is a duel episode yeah it’s always when I get the most frustrated so it’s gonna be a huge challenge yeah instead of the F word I’m going to say Frick and instead of the a-hole word I’m gonna say a butthole and instead of the S word I’m gonna say snap oh snap exactly so yeah thank you guys for leaving us reviews again and remember Harry and Tasker Marvel is better what they don’t click to the no prize a no prize is an award Marvel used to give out up until the 90s to fans our version the dynamic duo no prize is a digital award that we post on social media that Jonathan personally draws for those who we fill gave the best answer to our question of the week last week’s question was in regards to the news that the DC Universe app who might be going under yeah it was would you prefer to have a DC Universe app subscription or a warner media app subscription that only has some DC content the television stuff not the comic books right we got a lot of answers a lot of great answers yeah honorable mention goes to Jace Crump for his answer that he would prefer to just have the warner media app because it has more content than the DC app and would have a bigger audience iran egami gave the answer DC Universe because he enjoys the apps comic libraries and animated shows provided that the quality is better than the CW honorable mention goes to Dustin Balcom who said he would prefer to have the DC Universe app because it pays for itself if you just read four to five comics a month and plus it has those extra shows Jeremy or said that he would prefer the warning media app because it has a larger audience pool and therefore the price can stay low Plus getting anime and other great content is just awesome honorable mention goes to James Cole the third who prefers the DC Universe app because it has fantastic original content over 22,000 digital comics on all your devices and television sounds like an advertisement works for DC Universe I’m sold Joe Seagrave also the answer DC Universe but he would prefer it to be on the ps4 and he feels the Warner media app would be too expensive on ro mention goes to Jonathan Hazleton who said he would prefer subscribing to the DC Universe app because he doubts that there will be comics on the Warner media app Kim Johnson also said he wants the DC Universe app there’s so many DC Universe at people here is I’m like really happy just so many DC fans it’s so weird yes I just don’t think anything’s this amazing Ken Johnson what’s the DC Universe app but he wants them to open up all of the DC film and television content instead of you know just putting out different things each month and also he wants all the episodes for the television shows to be released at once that’s a huge aspect to why I think the DC Universe is not successful as it could be I agree if I could binge swampthing like in one weekend I would let you prefer that to having to wait you know 10 weeks especially because I know it’s not going to continue so like what’s the incentive right exactly and the hype is all gonna die by the time the show ends right anyway honorable mention also goes to Jeremy white who said Hugh prefer the DC Universe app because he want access to all DC content including that terrible Green Lantern movie what which I think makes sense well the final honorable mention goes to Caleb Albers who said that he only wants content that’s good and therefore wants a dynamic duel streaming service film commentaries and shorts of the duels yes and I would totally pay for that like animated shorts of the duels yeah or even live actually action they do that with the patent the son productions what is that called like superhero showdown or something like that that’s right that’s right shut up and take my money I would totally pay for that that’s very flattering answer flattery will get you everywhere but it won’t give you the know price this time for some reason because as cool as a dynamic duel streaming app would be I don’t think it would be nearly as cool as Gabby my’s answer who said they would prefer the DC Universe app but only with DC Universe Online the game and other DC games I didn’t even think about that DC has so many great video games so he wants the app to have the comics and the television shows and the movies and the video games yes I think a lot of people would switch to the DC Universe app if it came with those games too yeah like the Batman Arkham games absolutely yeah yeah congrats again to Gabby my for your answer this week you in the no prize and if you the listener want to win your own no prize go ahead and stay tuned to later on this episode when we will be asking another question of the week with that all out of the way onto the news okay so last week like just hours before his debut on the Crypt on season 2 opener Syfy announced that Lobo will be getting his own spin-off show is it gonna be like TV ma I hope so I hope so why not it’s sci-fi channels I think they could do TV ma content on there if they don’t Lobo should be the first one now I haven’t actually seen the episode because I don’t have the sci-fi channel but I have seen clips from the episode and he just looks ruthless man he looks like he’s gonna be a really good Lobo really I love the character of Lobo like I still remember getting really excited when they said that Danny Trejo was gonna be Lobo on the flash television series what yeah that ended up not happening really it would have been so perfect is this the first live-action version of Lobo that we’ve seen yes yeah he looks a lot like the character it’s pretty well done yeah I’ve always thought he was kind of a crazy character kind of in the same vein of like Deadpool and how wacky and inappropriate he is how it like unkicked friendly you know he’s a great character for Harry and tasker you know because he doesn’t say cuss words you know he instead of the F word he says frag and he says like bat stitch a bad stitch yeah those are safe curse words right I guess I they don’t sound like it but you know technically that’s true I guess the show is gonna be written and produced by Krypton’s same showrunner Cameron Welsh I’ve only seen like the first four episodes of Krypton and it was fine like I’m still not too invested in the story of Superman’s grandfather yeah but like the production value is decent well it’s kind of like Gotham we’re in that show all of these Batman villains are popping up like prematurely yeah in the Batman universe right and in this one it’s like all Superman’s villains are popping up prematurely in the Superman universe but it’s guys like Brainiac you know who of course we were around before Superman uh-huh so and doomsday was too I guess yeah yeah can you tell us a little bit about Lobo for those know about him well here’s the character created in the 80s you know which makes sense I think he stirred off as like a minor villain for the omegamin he was right he was a space biker Yeah right he’s like Deadpool but like cranked up to 11 Deadpool mixed with the Ghost Rider yeah kinda I guess I guess you do that he’s the last of his race he like accidentally killed everyone else on his planet when he was like just a boy with like a science experiment it’s pretty wild it’s pretty wild he’s meant to be like an over-the-top character and he’s insanely strong like Superman level strong who do you think we could pay against him in a duel episode we’ve already used Ghost Rider against a chicken and we’ve already used Deadpool against Deathstroke yeah I don’t think those would be good matches anyway really I don’t know Marvel you tell me who would be a good match um maybe like the Silver Surfer although I want to look at him against Orion yeah so I don’t know someone like beta ray Biddle or something some crazy 80s alien like that I don’t know I’ll have to think about it okay yeah we should definitely do a duel episode with Lobo maybe next year there’s no release date for when his show will be out it might still be a few years away we’ll do a duel episode with him soon cool moving on to video game news that we got a trailer for Marvel’s Avengers video game that’s coming out it was shown at e3 this past week and you know what I feel like it’s getting a lot of hate out there but I didn’t mind it I hate it I think a lot of people were expecting maybe different gameplay maybe something like open-world yeah yeah like it’s come it’s freaking 2019 I almost said the bad word it’s 2019 it’s like come on this game does appear to be more mission based than anything else right and I also noticed that the character design was getting a lot of flack because the characters don’t resemble the movie counterparts which is fine like the movie counterparts don’t look exactly like the comic characters right and it’s not a movie based game so I don’t mind that the likenesses are different what bothers me is that so much the likenesses but the graphics quality it looks like something that could have been on the Gamecube yeah these actors faces are a little bit uncanny valley so absolutely they’re a little bit frightening honestly especially the Tony Stark I don’t know why and the writing the writing just seems so generic it is really bad okay really bad let’s start from the beginning though so we get narration from I’m assuming is Kamala Khan because this seems like her voice style and Kamala Khan of course is MS Marvel and it sounds like she’s meeting the Avengers on this big event known as a day where they’re like celebrating the team but I guess there’s some kind of attack on San Francisco’s Golden Gate Bridge so cap sends the team out and the action looks super cinematic I think it looks pretty damn cool all the footage used in this trailer was in game footage using the game’s engine but it wasn’t gameplay footage I think some of it was some of the behind the back stuff I really think some of it was gameplay footage although we don’t know what the gameplay necessarily is going to be like if these are just like QuickTime events or if those characters are actually being controlled at this point you know right right the spider-man video game they came out for ps4 was similar in its cinematic style and was a mixture of QuickTime events and actual open-world yeah yeah like the Arkham games right how cool what an open-world Avengers game be though that would be so much better than what it looks like whatever this is so as the Avengers are taking on the threat on the Golden Gate Bridge we get some dialogue between the characters and there’s a weird moment where Thor’s like there are civilian hostages and tiny man with guns and then Iron Man like stops everything that he’s doing and is like the authorities make a joke I think Thor just made a joke and no he didn’t make a freakin joke that was not a joke you know and then iron man gets blasted out of the air from like a repulsor tank it’s so poorly written but it’s so much more than just that moment - it’s like oh this looks interesting I’m like they played us this black widows voice sucks I have to say I heard voices are kind of off I want Black Widow to have a Russian accent please give her a Russian accent it’s who she is I mean and obviously she’s a spy she could speak multiple languages she can easily hide her accent by that I don’t think that she would she doesn’t need to right not when she’s just being herself so anyway we have iron man blasting some tanks we have Hulk blessing some tanks it looks like the main villain of the scene is taskmaster I want to say because he has like a skull face and a hood it might be you know an alternate design of the crossbones character that we saw in Civil War oh yeah but he looks pretty formidable there’s a part where he’s flying around the bridge on a jetpack and like widows like hitching a ride and attacking him at the same time that looks pretty cool the camerawork is pretty impressive I have to say but apparently Captain America dies when the shield helicarrier’s core explodes or something like that I don’t know what that fragment crystal was within the ship’s core it could have been like isotope 8 which is an element that they tend to use in these Marvel games that’s used to like power up your character essentially huh like these RPG kind of elements yeah well I don’t really think that caps dead they make it seem like caps dead but I’m pretty sure he would survive a crashing Helicarrier into the water you know its water it’s just it doesn’t hurt you except an ice which is harder than water exactly but yeah the game really makes it seem like there’s some kind of fallout from this incident where the Avengers have kind of disbanded and then they have to unite once again to take on this new threat so in all the trailers been kind of like a mixed bag with some interesting action bits but also some really poor graphics and dialogue and story elements - would you buy it well yeah I absolutely would buy it if I had a platform to play it that’s one of the reasons why we don’t comment on gaming news too much on this podcast is because neither Jonathan nor I are gamers anymore we used to be but we kind of dropped off after the we era I guess yeah I just sold my xbox 1s really yeah I was thinking about getting a switch for the Ultimate Alliance Marvel game that’s coming out exclusively to that platform yeah that’s interesting I’m still wondering why that’s a switch exclusive I’m not sure in all I’d be really interested in hearing what our listeners think about this trailer those who are gamers and you know are a little bit more knowledgeable on the subject of modern gaming the speaking of gaming this brings us to our question of the week what has been your favorite DC or marvel video game and why post your answer to our Instagram Twitter Facebook or email us at dynamic duo podcast at gmail.com we’ll pick our favorite answer and draw that person a dynamic duel no prize that will post to social media I think that does it for all of the news for this episode so with all that done let’s go ahead and move on to the main event where we find out who would win in a fight between Sinestro and Magneto you’re scared no should be I’m not okay Sinestro versus Magneto now you might be asking yourself why these two characters and actually this was sort of inspired by the internet just by looking at what people thought would be good matches between DC and Marvel I saw this one and I was like well that’s an interesting match you have no idea who would win they’re both great fascinating characters who kind of skirt with like being really evil and you know semi heroic Sinestro is heroic well yeah he started off as a Green Lantern oh that’s right that’s right but also I think what appealed to me for this particular episode is that there’s not too many people who could go up against the Green Lantern powers wise they’re just so powerful and energetic but I think magneto is absolutely one of those characters he’s not only one of the most powerful mutants in the Marvel Universe he’s one of the most powerful characters in general his electromagnetic energy powers are just off the charts so I think Magneto is more than a match for Sinestro in this particular duel more than a match yes we’ll see so the way we determine the winner between these two characters is through statistics we take their statistics and we run them through a simulation known as a Monte Carlo simulation and what that does is it takes those stat numbers and it randomizes them along a normal distribution which is in the shape of a bell curve and that randomization simulates all the variables that take place during the course of battle now we compare these randomizations against each other from those results we get a percentage of wins for each character right and the character with the highest percentage of wins is the one that we declare the winner because they would win most of the time right because no one character ever wins 100% of the matches that’s never happened right there’s always a way for Batman to beat someone like Superman though we try not to be that lopsided in our matchup pairings we try to pick matches that we think will end up as close to 50% as possible and then are just super excited when that doesn’t happen if that doesn’t happen right right so again because Joseph and I are so biased we’ve chosen this approach because it’s the most objective scientific approach that we could find used to be done by Spike TV on their old television show Deadliest Warrior right its objective there’s no fan votes we don’t consider like outlier feats it’s just based statistics which are all based on the official Marvel Power Rankings grid right and from Marvel’s criteria we extrapolate the DC character statistics as well as at our own stat categories in order to make a more robust accurate simulation things like evasive ‘no sand range things that you know would play a factor in an actual battle right so before we run this Monte Carlo simulation with these two character stats will go over Magneto’s and Sinestro’s histories and powers so you’re more familiar with the characters I think I go first this time so let me tell you all about the character of Magneto who I have to say is one of my favorite villains of all time because is he a tyrannical madman or a righteous zealot you know he does take extreme measures to fight for a mutant equality but have extreme measures not been taken also by humans to suppress mutants do the ends justify the means when striving for a noble cause and who decides which causes noble these are just some of the fascinating questions that arise when analyzing Magneto now Magneto’s real name is Max Eisenhart max Eisenhart was born to a middle-class Jewish family in Germany during the rise of the Nazi regime he and his family were persecuted by Nazi soldiers and beaten nearly every day and they ended up fleeing to Poland there they escaped to the warsaw ghetto to avoid extermination but were eventually captured and killed in a firing squad max unknowingly used his powers for the first time to avoid being shot and was the only member of his family to survive though he was soon found and imprisoned in Auschwitz there he was forced to clean out the furnaces of the crematoria where he would discover the bodies of friends who had been picked for death some of them horribly disfigured by the experiments of geneticist supervillain mr. sinister he reunited with an early childhood crush named Magda in the extermination camp and saved her from the gas chambers before the two escaped and fled to a Carpathian mountain village where max changed his identity to erik lensherr they stayed there until the war’s end got married and had a daughter named Anya yes his name was Erik Lehnsherr in the movies that’s what they refer to him as but that’s actually more of a gypsy name and in the comics they didn’t quite decide whether or not they wanted magneto to be Jewish or gypsy for a really long time so what they did is they gave him a Jewish name that he later changed to a gypsy name okay because he married Magda who was part Romani right so after they had their daughter Anya Erik moved his family to a Soviet Union City where he got a job as a carpenter he consciously used his mutant powers for the first time as he magnetically hurled a crowbar at his boss for not paying him as he arrived home that evening he saw his home burning down with his daughter trapped in her room he tried to save her but was held down by KGB goons who had been called by Eric’s boss to start the fire and beat him up as Anya burned alive in front of him Eric killed the men who held him and the entire crowd watching and he destroyed a portion of the city itself ok Magda fled in grief at the loss of her daughter and out of fear of her husband Eric travelled to Israel where he worked as an orderly at a psychiatric hospital for Holocaust survivors there he first met Charles Xavier who was volunteering at the hospital the two became friends and would often discuss the subject of the budding mutant race and its coexistence with the human majority the two eventually revealed to their powers to each other as they fought Hydra to save a kidnapped friend realizing kids and Charles views were incompatible Erik stole hydras Nazi gold and went on a journey hunting Nazi war criminals around the world he developed a notorious reputation and was nicknamed Magneto he witnessed the persecution of mutants firsthand in his travels around the world and seeing parallels with the persecution of Jews in Nazi Germany decided to establish a group to fight for mutant rights he created an orbital space station need to use as a base called asteroid M and recruited his alleged children Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch as well as toad and mastermind this was the original Brotherhood of mutants he led the group in acts of genetic terrorism and were often stopped by Charles Xavier and his rival team of mutants called the x-men who fought for peaceful mutant and human coexistence he would also end up clashing with the likes of the Fantastic Four the Submariner Thor and the Inhumans eventually Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch left the team to join the Avengers and you can learn more about them in our flash vs Quicksilver episode and our Zatanna vs Scarlet Witch episode where they find out that they’re not actually Magneto’s children dumb after many years of attacking humans with various incarnations of his Brotherhood team Erik was D aged a few decades into his younger self spotty during an encounter with the alien she our race occasionally Erik would find himself fighting alongside the x-men when external threats to mutant kind would show up such as William strikers purifiers and during the Secret Wars event that was when the godlike being known as the Beyonder transported Marvel’s heroes and villains to battle world to do battle eric was transported to the villain side but he rejected them and fought alongside the heroes instead later he even led the x-men and the new mutants teams when Professor X had to be taken off world to be treated for an attack by Hydra though Eric thought he can manipulate the teams into his belief of mutant superiority the reverse happened and he began questioning his own methods however over time the pressures of keeping the teams safe got to him and he became an overbearing and tyrannical team leader he ended up leaving the x-men and returning to his old ways after seeing his students oppressed time and again he stated that the world should focus on just him as the mutant threat and that by being the major villain he could help protect other mutants his goal was no longer human conquest but rather the creation of a haven for mutant kind on asteroid M the United Nations Security Council deployed satellites that disrupted Eric’s powers on asteroid M and he deactivated every electronic device on earth in retaliation holy cow he fought the x-men again once again led by Professor X and in the process extracted the adamantium from Wolverine skeleton and you can learn more about that in our haka band vs. Wolverine duel episode in the aftermath the United Nations ended up ceding governmental control of the small island nation of Genosha to Eric to use as his mutant Haven its population grew in the tens of thousands but the island was eventually attacked and destroyed by mega sentinels an event during which Eric was presumed dead as he rose from Genosha ‘s rubble and recovered his powers his alleged daughter the Scarlet Witch rewrote reality to one where Eric ruled over a mutant dominated world called the House of M that version of reality came crashing down however when the heroes realized the truth and the Scarlet Witch ended up restoring reality but not before stripping most of the Earth’s mutant population of their powers including Eric’s broken and disillusioned Eric went into hiding he worked with the High Evolutionary the scientists that granted Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch the powers and was able to regain his powers through his technology though the machine could only be used once of course Eric made it his mission to try and restore the mutant populace his lost powers which his attention to the first mutant born after the events of house of M named Hope Summers he joined the x-men on their new island base called utopia which was actually asteroid M resurfaced from the ocean’s depths during the Avengers vs. x-men event the Phoenix force returned to Earth magneto sided with the x-men but attacked Cyclops when his Phoenix powers grew out of control Hope Summers on the Scarlet Witch were able to use the Phoenix to restore the last powers of Earth’s former mutants fulfilling Erik’s mission he later tracked down the Red Skull after learning that the villain was using Genosha as a concentration camp for many of these newly restored mutants and he beat him to death however Schmitt was soon resurrected in the psyche of red onslaught who Merrick helps defeat alongside the x-men and the Avengers the Earth’s mutants were restored many of them started dying due to exposure to the Terrigen mists released in the atmosphere by Black Bolt whom you can learn more about in our sysm vs. Black Bolt duel this forced Eric to again try and protect the mutant race through any means necessary establishing a new asteroid m and a new brotherhood immunes is the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants um it was initially called the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants in the comics yes but that’s kind of been retconned because it wouldn’t make sense for magneto to refer to his own team as evil considering that he views his cause as righteous right right I was thinking the same thing okay although there was a theory in the earth X graphic novel where The Watcher surmised that magneto called his Brotherhood evil in order to force Charles Xavier to take a moral stance basically interesting yeah which I don’t know still doesn’t make sense to me no anyway Magneto’s powers are to control the fundamental forces of electromagnetism and he is one of the earth’s most powerful mutants with his power he has complete molecular control of metals with effects that range from being able to control a person’s blood flow using the iron in their hemoglobin or he can move mountains or he can even manipulate the planet’s electromagnetic field we’re not that like destroy the planet yes maybe I don’t know but he can fly he can create impenetrable force fields and fire electromagnetic blasts and pulses no can he control all metals or just iron all ferrous metals okay basically any metal that can be magnetized okay although he also magnetized non-magnetic elements so you know what just metal just think metal okay okay magneto can also reinforce the metal fibers of his outfit to be near the strength of adamantium in addition he also has telepathic resistance through his helmet and he also has a genius-level intellect and that’s the character I mean I guess that’s impressive I mean not as impressive as like a ring that can allow you to create anything you can imagine I mean magneto can create anything he imagines out of a metal so let’s hope there’s some around let me get into Sinestro fell Sinestro is from the planet Keurig are in space sector 1417 he was an orderly anthropologist on his planet until one day the Green Lantern for 1417 named pearl Gus Casa crash landed near Sinestro injured and apparently dying from a battle with a weapon er of cord which is a planet from DC’s antimatter universe gus Gotha gave up his rank - Sinestro whom the ring deemed to be fearless and honorable and despite not knowing what the ring could do Sinestro was able to destroy the core daeun attackers in pursuit of Gus cava when the dust settled cascada was still alive realizing he could recover with the aid of his Green Lantern ring gus Gotha asked Sinestro to return it but Sinestro disgusted by how easily Gus Gotha gave up that power left to Gus Gotha to die and became sector very honorable that’s true that ring was stupid the guardians of the universe whom I’ll refer to as the Owens and whom you can learn more about in our Green Lantern vs. Nova episode were the creators and leaders of the interstellar peacekeeping force known as the Green Lantern Corps they never found out about how Sinestro lettuce Gotha die and instead lauded him for his competence with the ring doesn’t the ring have its own sentience and wouldn’t it tell on him it didn’t in his prime Sinestro was the greatest Green Lantern in all 3600 sectors of the universe under his vigilant protection sector 1417 was almost the entire devoid of crime he mentored and befriended many other Green Lantern’s including the alien Abin sewer of sector bansuri became such close friends the Sinestro married Abin sister Erin and together they had a daughter Abin Sur had learned from an alien named Atrocitus of a prophecy known as blackest night a time when darkness would rise up in the universe and extinguish all light Atrocitus was the leader of a prophetic terrorist cabal against the owens and as ivan sewer was taking the captured Atrocitus to the prison planet of his smalt for his crimes Atrocitus killed Abin sewer and the two crash-landed on earth Sinestro attacked Atrocitus while on earth and recaptured him with the help of Abin SURS successor the human Hal Jordan whom Sinestro initially deemed unworthy as he was imprisoned Atrocitus taunted Sinestro with a personal prophecy about the chaos and deadly coup that would lead to sinestro’s fall from grace within the Green Lantern Corps deeply affected by atrocities his words Sinestro returned home and began crossing ethical lines in order to maintain order within his sector eventually dominating each planet as a dictator who ruled by fear recognising sinestro’s dark turn and fearing for their daughter’s life his wife Erin secretly gave their daughter away and fled dying soon after from a suicide bomber who had intended to kill Sinestro which only bolstered his tyranny the Owens ordered Sinestro to train Hal Jordan who despite his recklessness Sinestro eventually befriended during their training held traveled to sector 1417 with Sinestro to quell a rebellion that had arisen during semesters absence during this time Hal realized Sinestro was using his ring to rule over his sector guilt-stricken for helping him stop the rebellion Hal kept Sinestro secret and instead imprisoned both of them on earth the Owens sent Manhunters the emotionless energy draining Android Prix cursors to the Green Lanterns to earth to capture both Green Lanterns and put them on trial held testified against Sinestro who’s imprisoned in the antimatter universe and swore revenge against Hal and the Owens while there he met the weaponers of cord who hated the Owens as much as he did they fashioned him a yellow power ring and sent him back to the positive matter universe where he became the Green Lantern course most powerful nemesis due at the time to their rings inability to affect the color yellow eventually thanks mostly to hell Jordan Sinestro was imprisoned in the Green Lantern Corps central power battery which powers the ranks of each member of the Corps while in the battery Sinestro discovered that the Green Lantern’s weakness to yellow came from an entity known as parallax the yellow embodiment of fear in the universe that the Owens had also imprisoned in the battery millions of years prior Sinestro influenced parallax and two manipulating kal Jordan and driving him insane when Hales hometown of coast city was destroyed Hal went on a rampage killing the rest of the Corps in order to drain their energy and made his way to the planet OA to absorb the central power battery the Owens released Sinestro from his prison to confront and defeat Hal but Sinestro taunted Hal into killing him and the Owens bringing Hal fully over the edge and allowing parallax to fully possess him it was later revealed however that the Sinestro who died was an energy construct made by parallax and puppeteered by Sinestro who went into hiding once the core was destroyed biding his time until parallax was powerful enough to power his yellow ring parallax had been destroyed but was slowly regaining his energy through Hal Jordan in his new form as the spectre you can learn more about in our Specter vs. Galactus episode Hal Jordan re-emerged as a Green Lantern once again now free from parallax’s influence and he and Sinestro fought resulting in Sinestro’s yellow ring to be destroyed and him being instantly teleported back to the antimatter universe with the help of the universe destroying entity from the antimatter first known as the anti-monitor Sinestro formed the Sinestro Corps a team of frightful beings from across the universe who wielded yellow power rings to combat the reformation of the Green Lantern Corps with the Green Lantern’s Universal entity of courage and willpower of being known as ion captured by the Sinestro Corps the Owens rewrote the Green Lantern by laws to allow Green Lantern’s to use lethal force which was Sinestro’s plan all along making him victorious once again despite him in the Corps being defeated in battle on earth captured and facing execution Sinestro was abducted from the Green Lantern Corps by Atrocitus and his newly created Red Lantern Corps who learned of Sinestro’s daughter Soren Akina - who was unaware of her parentage and had been the Green Lantern of sector 1417 for some time shortly after Sinestro was rescued from the Green Lantern Corps by his own Corps members heroes and villains who have died throughout DC continuity began to arise as reanimated zombie corpses wielding Black Lantern rings including Abin sewer and his sister Erin sinestro’s former wife it took mass recruitment by the green yellow and red Lantern Corps as well as the newly formed orange blue indigo and violet teams to gather enough white light when combining their energy to attack the Black Lantern central power battery created from the corpse of the anti-monitor by necron the universal embodiment of death nekron planned on summoning the embodiment of life known simply as the entity so he could destroy it and subsequently all life in the universe in one fell swoop once summoned the entity possessed Sinestro who used to the power to fight and help defeat nekron saving the universe Sinestro became a Green Lantern once again after an evil Owen known as Corona captured his yellow ring along with the seven colored Universal entities of emotion helping defeat Corona as a Green Lantern Sinestro was allowed to keep his ring though he returned to the head of the Sinestro Corps when he realized the Owens were manipulating Kim into destroying the yellow lanterns and eventually all other cores save for the green in retaliation Sinestro killed all but two of the Owens Jesus and set off to fight and save the survivors of his destroyed planet of Court guard recently Sinestro became the bearer of an ultraviolet light outside of the emotional spectrum that channels all negative emotion in general which he can use to create both invisible constructs and manipulate life forms in this match however Sinestro will have his yellow power ring which is primarily capable of creating yellow energy and hard light constructs such as force field or like scary spiders mm-hmm it’s also capable of empathically determining an opponent’s fears which it can amplify his rank also grants him enhanced strength speed durability and flight the ring does however need to be recharged on occasion and it is disrupted by the blue energy of hope that Sinestro sometimes Magneto’s energy in the comics is depicted as blue but it’s not very high kinetic energy sure it is all right that isn’t where the backstories and powers for each of these characters now before we run the simulations we like to discuss how we think one of those 1000 matches would actually play out and kind of like an improvised scenario yeah the final results aren’t based on the speculation this is just for funsies now we don’t set any rules for our particular scenario save that the characters don’t know anything about each other other than they are threats to each other that need to be put down they start 50 yards apart on whatever battlefields they’re on and the battlefield is nondescript basically we don’t take stats for the environment within these simulations the characters have to win on their own merits so the environment does not play any sort of factor within the battle itself because some characters can win in certain environments and have disadvantages and others right exactly like if this fight took place on Mars Sinestro is dead is he though yeah because Mars is full of iron I guess it was earth and if this match took place like in the middle of nowhere space magneto would pretty much be dead which is not true because magneto can actually draw upon magnetic fields of surrounding planets and stars oh so like millions of miles way yeah he can’t do that it would take a long time it isn’t he used the magnetic power of the Sun in a fight against Iron Man in the Avengers vs. x-men to strengthen himself it made him stronger yes he can use magnetic fields to make himself stronger they fought in space too and Magneto like created his own suit of armor using the metal from nearby satellites I’m talking about deep space okay there are no stars or asteroids or anything around deep space deep space okay Neil deGrasse Tyson yeah you don’t know anything about space don’t act like you know about space deep space 9 anyway let’s go ahead and get this fight started so they start 50 yards apart from each other and they know that they have to beat each other who goes first I actually I actually think that Sinestro is a little bit more manic than Magneto yeah I agree I think Sinestro would actually go first considering that he might also be a little bit faster well I think he starts off just by sort of like doing a scan of Magneto an empathic scan of you know what magneto fears well magneto can’t be scanned because he has that helmets that blocks it from the head yeah reading his heart does that mean he doesn’t have a heart ailment slot or memory base in its human motion its emotion know that emotions are not physically held in the heart they’re held in the brain pool still like the laws of Marvel telepathy being blocked by helmets doesn’t apply to DC well it applies in this case I’m sorry why because that’s his whole thing he has telepathic resistance it’s not telepathy it’s empathy same fucking thing is same freaking thing is it yes yeah can’t be scanned besides magneto doesn’t have fears anyway it’s not gonna help you while you’re busy scanning magneto has seized this guy who he knows to be a threat he and he shoots emit electromagnetic blast atom like lightning yeah it’s kind of depicted as lightning ish in the in the comics okay well since Sinestro’s rank was scanning magneto it senses the build-up of this electro magnetism and puts up a shield right away blocking the blast okay so then that’s when Sinestro retaliates by creating like a million little tiny scary spiders that just go all around agony except how did they get past Magneto’s force field they’re created within the force field you can’t project energy through the force field who said his force field is up you didn’t even say his force field is up magneto traditionally has his force field up almost at all times it’s usually just invisible and that’s canon what yeah especially he would have it up during at the start of this fight okay so the spiders crawl all around this force field let’s Senesh sure know exactly where this force field is yeah all around him okay so once he’s completely encased in spiders that’s when Sinestro creates like this vise grip picks magneto up by his force field and just like curls him into space except magneto breaks the vise grip by expanding his force field to break the contract that’s holding him shut the fuck shit the front door I always said it and as soon as he breaks the vise grip magneto flies toward Sinestro and he shoots this huge giant electromagnetic beam a Sinestro boom force field blocked god we got to get around these four seals Ahuh alright so magneto taps into whatever like electromagnetic currents are surrounding them because everything has an electromagnetic field whether it be life-forms or even planets radiation out in space wherever they are there will be an electromagnetic field that magneto can tap into and kind of use to telekinetically shake sinestro within his force field and kind of like rattle him around like a hamster and a hamster ball then Sinestro is just like slamming back and forth against the walls and getting all bloodied from that okay which causes Sinestro to drop his force field yeah at that moment magneto sends out this electromagnetic pulse that affects sinestro’s electric nervous system and basically gives him a stroke what yeah no it doesn’t because as the electromagnetic pulse is coming at him he creates a battery that absorbs that electrical energy and uses it to power a big-ass cannon which he fires right at Magneto okay well magneto still has his force field but I would assess that big would actually start taxing his ability to maintain that force field it’s very big laser so once the cannon is done shooting at him it’s added the energy that it absorbed whatever right magneto drops his force field and splinters his helmet into a bunch of tiny metal shards that he just sends her link straight at Sinestro’s face as they’re coming at him this like dragon wing sweeps in and like blocks the shards and then like the wing moves to reveal this giant as dragon that then just like fires a huge fireball at magneto and this thing’s scary let me tell you but as magneto is jumping out of the way of the dragon’s flames he takes all those metal shards that are within the dragon’s wings and he forms them together into this giant blade that just slices the the Dragons head off and decapitate them okay but the dragon’s head like falls off rolls to the like grand but then like spider like spread out of it and it starts going in Magni toe it’s like I’m gonna get you scary magneto is like what the hell is hellah curse word I don’t know anyway okay so magneto is like freaking the heck out all right so what he does is he summons his helmet back to him but he creates a full protective mask out of it with like mesh eye holes and everything like that so he could still see out of it he reinforces all the metal around his body in his metal weave suit so that it’s about as durable as adamantium okay uh-huh so this thing’s like lunging at him but he’s armored so it can’t like affect him too much and he draws upon the electromagnetic energy of whatever large planet may be nearby him whether it’s earth or it’s the Sun or it’s another planet or wherever he is so he’s like coursing with like this glowing electromagnetic energy and it increases his strength so much so that he just punches this dragon right in the face and rips his spider legs off okay buzz magneto is too busy fighting this dragon head that’s one Sinestro sort of like fills the area around magneto with this like ooze that he’s just like drowning in and then at that point magneto again creates his force field that emanates from his body and pushes the eu’s away creating basically an air bubble for himself and then he probably just like spins that bubble so that it like sends all the is flying away from him okay well know that magneto is dizzy as heck no no you just spinning the force fields not himself within this force he’ll know them but he shoots out this energy blast that connects to sinestro’s ring and taps into whatever you know alien metals are within the construction of the ring itself what yeah it looks like antimatter metal you can’t do anything with that wait did you say the word metal did you say the word metal its antimatter like metal dig it so he pulls the ring of the sinestro’s hand no know what’s actually in like metal events that they had in the comics recently like yeah the rings are metal your budged so you pulls the ring off of Sinestro’s hand and then it brings it towards him realizing like this is this awesome energy weapon and magneto puts the ring on his own hand okay little did you know that this row has built-in safeguards for anyone else who wears his ring okay so as magneto puts on his hand that’s when it like generates a saw blade and chops off magnet this took him by surprise okay okay I’ll accept that so magneto just lost a hand but he’s not gonna bleed out because he can hold back his own blood from flowing out of his arm due to the iron that’s within it just like hotter is it in effect yes okay well meanwhile the ring flies off of the amputated hand and back onto semester’s finger before it gets back to semesters finger magneto stalls it in midair and at which point magneto removes his helmet again and like turns it into like this metallic dust that flies over to Sinestro and Sinestro inhales it basically what is this x2 yes but I say that before the dust could even get to Sinestro he runs over to the rink himself puts it on and then just creates light already has all this metal in his body now well little did you know that the Green Lantern’s could actually face through matter on certain instances so I’m sure Sinestro can do it as well what so yeah he just uses the ring to face his molecules away from the metal bits leaving himself vulnerable standing right next to all these metal bits that’s form like this liquid that just wraps around Sinestro’s ring and hand and then magneto makes Sinestro start punching himself okay well Sinestro uses his ring to pick up Magneto’s amputated hand and uses that to start slapping magneto across the face over and over in fact Sinestro creates like 100 more zombie hands but also starts slapping back around alright so magneto either gets slapped to death or Sinestro punches himself to death with the metal fist sure yeah I did not see that happening but I think that does afford this particular scenario we’ll end it there and we’ll go to the simulations and run the numbers and figure out exactly who would win between these two villains let’s do it [Music] okay I can’t do the mental math off the top of my head as to who is coming out on top of this this is definitely gonna be a surprise for me yeah it’s pretty close here which I think makes it a great match we did figure that Sinestro is faster than Magneto right but the magneto is slightly stronger because he could essentially affect planets and while Sinestro can do the same it would take a lot more effort you think a lot more willpower to lift a mountain as opposed to Magneto who can lift a mountain fairly effortlessly right exactly fighting skill Sinestro came out on top yeah cuz he has the training through the Green Lantern Corps right right you don’t really see magneto fight hand-to-hand too often he probably does have some experience in pan tank combat but no formal training uh-huh where else do they differ in terms of durability we said that due to Magneto’s heavy armor made him less vulnerable to direct attack as opposed to Sinestro who has to create a construct to defend himself right and shield creation is more representative through the evasive ‘no stat which we more accurately define as the ability to avoid being hit as opposed to durability which is the ability to resist or recover from injury to your body directly right exactly intelligence why is there about the same I would say yeah yeah they’re both smart villains so yeah taking all those numbers and running them through the Monte Carlo we have a winner now who do you think it’s gonna be I really hope with Sinestro but you put up a much better fight than I thought you would like I thought I was totally gonna own this that friggin force field like force fields are hard to get through it’s always hard when you have two characters that can have full impenetrable force fields going at all time right right so you need to find a way to kind of like negate that and I think that we did that hopefully in a way that makes sense because you know the comic book writers do it all the time right yeah we’ll see so alright it was an extremely close match I’m proud of both of these guys the winner of the magneto Sinestro match is Magneto yeah he won 57.1% of the magico compared to sinestro’s 429 wins what what I cannot fathom this yeah magneto one man deal with it no you have to deal with this no actually I did not quite see that coming as well I think the big factor here was that magneto always is wearing his armor uh-huh whether or not his armor itself has been reinforced according to comics almost nearly always has his force field going he’s almost always in a defensive state sure could do that but it would drain the energy in his ring right right considering we didn’t take into consideration any environmental metal within our scenario right if there was environmental metal the Sinestro would have that much harder of a time I forgot to take into account that electro magnetism is essentially everywhere almost in the universe he’s essentially in control of one of the four fundamental forces of the universe exactly this sucks okay Harry and tasker careers for for a few seconds cuz this is fucking bullshit [Laughter] okay you’re gonna uncover your ears again so go ahead and mark this down as a win in the marble column for Magneto and go ahead and write in to us and let us know what you 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