Blade: Trinity Review

1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,972 This is a Dynamike Network podcast. 2 00:00:25,018 --> 00:00:30,299 Welcome to the dynamic duel podcast a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate 3 00:00:30,339 --> 00:00:36,061 the superiority between Marvel and DC By comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations 4 00:00:36,521 --> 00:00:42,922 I'm Johnny DC and I'm his twin brother Marvelous Joe and in this episode for Halloween We are 5 00:00:42,962 --> 00:00:50,184 reviewing the not scary at all vampire film Blade Trinity Yeah, this is part of our spooky 6 00:00:50,244 --> 00:00:56,486 October. We'll call it spooktober series of episodes this month culminating in one of the 7 00:00:56,706 --> 00:01:02,268 biggest surprise I'm sure listeners will receive from this podcast ever. It's gonna be huge. 8 00:01:02,508 --> 00:01:07,329 You guys are gonna love it. Be sure to tune in on Halloween day for an episode that's gonna 9 00:01:07,369 --> 00:01:11,890 blow your socks off. The executive producers know what we're talking about, but the rest 10 00:01:11,930 --> 00:01:15,451 of you are just gonna have to wait to find out later. Yeah, it's gonna be super fun. Of course, 11 00:01:15,611 --> 00:01:21,633 this episode is a tie-in to last week's episode in which we did a duel between the vampire 12 00:01:23,770 --> 00:01:30,876 and Dracula, Dracula being the main antagonist of Blade Trinity. Barely. I mean, barely, right? 13 00:01:31,056 --> 00:01:35,660 Like, we'll talk about that later as we discuss the film in our review. Right. Before that, 14 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,624 we're going to break down the comic book movie news from the past week of which there was 15 00:01:39,704 --> 00:01:43,887 really nothing. We're going to be talking about video game news in this episode, because later 16 00:01:43,927 --> 00:01:50,093 on in this month, Spider-Man 2 for the PlayStation 5 is dropping. 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It actually sounded like you pronounced 39 00:04:03,498 --> 00:04:09,941 that correctly. Who knows? Yay. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen 40 00:04:09,981 --> 00:04:15,284 to all of the shows in the Dynamike Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick 41 00:04:15,484 --> 00:04:16,325 to the no prize. 42 00:04:20,322 --> 00:04:25,205 A No Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Dual No Prize, 43 00:04:25,505 --> 00:04:29,988 is a digital award we post on Instagram and in our email newsletter for the person that 44 00:04:30,029 --> 00:04:35,332 we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week, we asked, which prior 45 00:04:35,392 --> 00:04:41,537 DC film or television series would you most hope remained in James Gunn's DCU continuity 46 00:04:41,977 --> 00:04:47,301 and why? Of course, this was coming off of the news that James Gunn had said that Viola Davis, 47 00:04:48,534 --> 00:04:54,695 and Shalomaritwanya were maintaining their roles in his new DC universe. Yeah, we wanted to 48 00:04:54,715 --> 00:04:58,617 know what else you guys wanted to survive the transition. Got some great answers, got a lot 49 00:04:58,657 --> 00:05:02,958 of answers. So let's go ahead and break down our honorable mentions and the no prize winner. 50 00:05:03,478 --> 00:05:09,180 Our first honorable mention goes to Unworthy Collector from Instagram who said, Hey guys, 51 00:05:09,220 --> 00:05:14,401 it's Unworthy. First of all, my cousin Andrew Bennett was not impressed with Joe's nonsense 52 00:05:14,441 --> 00:05:21,484 last week. But as far as DC shows that I'd like to see continue in James Gunn's universe, I'd 53 00:05:21,524 --> 00:05:27,370 really like to see them retool the Titans characters from the show and include Ray Fisher's cyborg. 54 00:05:27,690 --> 00:05:32,795 Because I really think what the DC universe is going to need moving forward is definitely 55 00:05:32,835 --> 00:05:37,640 a Titans team. Right, of course, the Titans was a series that premiered on Max. They went 56 00:05:37,660 --> 00:05:42,893 through four seasons. Not a bad show, actually a pretty good show that felt like it fit right 57 00:05:43,013 --> 00:05:47,837 in with the Snyderverse. Cyborg of course was a character that's in the Doom Patrol television 58 00:05:47,878 --> 00:05:52,382 series, but I think he makes more sense as a part of the Titans, and I would love for him 59 00:05:52,402 --> 00:05:57,987 to be a part of that in a new DC universe. Well, Unworthy mentioned specifically Ray Fisher, 60 00:05:58,087 --> 00:06:03,352 who played Cyborg in the Justice League film. Yeah, that guy's career is probably not going 61 00:06:03,372 --> 00:06:07,094 to continue with any Warner Brothers project. So I guess we'll have to settle for Joyvon 62 00:06:07,134 --> 00:06:11,537 Wade. Which, that's not really settling in my opinion. You know, I think he does a great 63 00:06:11,577 --> 00:06:15,819 job with the character. How important do you think it is to have a successful Titans team 64 00:06:15,939 --> 00:06:21,222 within a DC cinematic universe? Well, you know, it seems like since they're starting off with 65 00:06:21,383 --> 00:06:28,146 a film literally called Superman Legacy, that legacy itself will be a major component of 66 00:06:28,206 --> 00:06:32,629 this new cinematic universe that James Gunn is establishing. You know, you could also look 67 00:06:32,669 --> 00:06:39,115 at projects. like Paradise Lost and maybe exploring Hippolyta and you know even Batman and Robin, 68 00:06:39,235 --> 00:06:44,316 they're brave in the bold film to see how legacy will play a role. I think the Titans will be 69 00:06:44,376 --> 00:06:49,638 huge in this upcoming universe. I hope they are at least. Yeah, totally makes sense thematically 70 00:06:49,678 --> 00:06:54,359 with the direction that Guns Universe seems to be headed. So great answer Unworthy. Shout 71 00:06:54,379 --> 00:07:00,821 out to your cousin, Andrew Bennett, who works at the H&R Block as an accountant. Our next 72 00:07:00,861 --> 00:07:08,058 honorable mention goes to... Colby Hentges who said, Hey boys, Colby Hentges. If James Gunn 73 00:07:08,098 --> 00:07:14,482 keeps one DC show, I want it to be why the last man. I know the show didn't get off to a great 74 00:07:14,542 --> 00:07:18,505 start, but if it's anything like the books, they just get better and better every issue 75 00:07:19,086 --> 00:07:25,531 and the supporting cast on the show was fantastic. Agent three 55 and Dr. Mann were great. Diane 76 00:07:25,571 --> 00:07:31,770 Lane is his mom was awesome. I'd like to see it get a better shot. So I did not watch the 77 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:37,713 Why the Last Man television series. It was on FX and I just didn't have access to that. But 78 00:07:37,793 --> 00:07:43,816 I am a huge fan of the comic book series, Why the Last Man. And everything I saw from the 79 00:07:43,876 --> 00:07:49,258 trailers made it look like the television series was not a terrible adaptation. And I was really 80 00:07:49,298 --> 00:07:53,580 heartbroken to hear it was canceled because I would have loved to have seen that whole 81 00:07:53,620 --> 00:07:58,951 series go to the very end, which is a really powerful ending. So yeah, if James Gunn can 82 00:07:59,171 --> 00:08:04,614 somehow revive that show, I definitely think that's within his power as one of the CEOs 83 00:08:04,654 --> 00:08:10,898 for DC Studios, that would be awesome. Well, Why the Last Man is published by DC's imprint 84 00:08:10,958 --> 00:08:17,002 Vertigo, but it's not part of any DC universe, you know? So I don't see it joining James Gunn's 85 00:08:17,022 --> 00:08:22,045 DCU at all. Well, no, I don't think it needs to be a part of the DCU. It's just a story 86 00:08:22,065 --> 00:08:27,240 that came from the publisher. that I think would be great to see continued in live action. Oh, 87 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,244 gotcha. Yeah, we didn't review Why the Last Man, but we also didn't review Sweet Tooth 88 00:08:32,284 --> 00:08:36,547 as well, largely because we like to stick in the superhero genre when it comes to the stories 89 00:08:36,567 --> 00:08:40,990 that these publishers put out there. Right, it's the same reason we didn't review The Kitchen. 90 00:08:41,010 --> 00:08:48,195 Right. Great answer, Colby. Our next honorable mention goes to Marquis High. I would have 91 00:08:48,235 --> 00:08:54,287 to go with my man Ben this time, and I'm sorry, I- I felt it so much that I forgot to throw 92 00:08:54,327 --> 00:09:02,754 my name in. This is Mark C, Mark C1684. Just calling into you gentlemen. Ben Affleck reads 93 00:09:02,774 --> 00:09:06,958 the comics. He's been a part of the material. He loves the stuff. And I thought he was a 94 00:09:06,998 --> 00:09:14,224 good Batman. Yay, picked up a gun and killed some people. But you know, sometimes. Thanks 95 00:09:14,264 --> 00:09:19,468 guys. Have a good one. Yes, sometimes Batman just has to pick up a gun and kill some people. 96 00:09:19,768 --> 00:09:24,764 That's what I've always said. I mean that happened in the nightmare vision, you know, it's not 97 00:09:24,784 --> 00:09:30,970 like Batman and the prime timeline was just cap and fools. But no, I love Ben Affleck as 98 00:09:31,010 --> 00:09:36,835 Batman. And I know he says that he's done with the role. But considering the first project 99 00:09:36,855 --> 00:09:42,300 we may see him in is this Brave and the Bold Batman and Robin movie, it makes sense that 100 00:09:42,340 --> 00:09:48,574 they would go with a Batman that's, you know, maybe in his 50s like Ben Affleck is. Yeah, 101 00:09:48,654 --> 00:09:54,057 established and totally believable as a father figure to a young Robin. Like, I don't think 102 00:09:54,077 --> 00:10:00,660 you could have Robert Pattinson be a part of the DCU having a kid in his second onscreen 103 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:05,943 appearance, you know? It would have to be like a baby for it to work. Yeah. So it really seems 104 00:10:05,983 --> 00:10:12,347 like the Batman franchise directed by Matt Reeves will definitely not be part of the DCU. With 105 00:10:12,387 --> 00:10:16,209 the direction, it sounds like James Gunn is taking his universe and it does not sound like 106 00:10:16,229 --> 00:10:20,560 that as much as I would love. for the Batman to be a part of that. I don't think it's gonna 107 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,624 happen. So why not keep Ben Affleck? I would not hate it. Great answer, Markey. Hi, we wanna 108 00:10:26,644 --> 00:10:32,809 give a quick shout out to the other answerers, Abner O'Terry, Christopher Manati, Micky Mathengian, 109 00:10:33,009 --> 00:10:38,233 and Travis Herndon for taking the time to visit our website and record your answer. But the 110 00:10:38,273 --> 00:10:45,626 winner of this week's No Prize is Lizzie Dyer Arnie, who said, Hey, it's Lizzie. I definitely 111 00:10:45,706 --> 00:10:51,511 want Black Adam to remain in the James Gunn continuity because it introduced the Justice 112 00:10:51,531 --> 00:10:58,135 Society of America. Now they're the very first OG superhero team. I think they're very important 113 00:10:58,316 --> 00:11:04,861 to the DC universe and I would like to see some older heroes trying to save the day. It'd be 114 00:11:04,881 --> 00:11:10,265 a lot of fun. So with the exception of Henry Cavill's cameo in the post-credits scene at 115 00:11:10,285 --> 00:11:17,410 the end of Black The movie overall was pretty removed from the larger DCEU. Viola Davis's 116 00:11:17,450 --> 00:11:21,854 Amanda Waller notwithstanding, but she's gonna continue into the DCEU anyway, so it doesn't 117 00:11:21,874 --> 00:11:26,798 matter. We're getting JSA characters in Superman Legacy, we know. We're getting Hawkeye Girl 118 00:11:26,858 --> 00:11:30,981 and Mr. Terrific, who weren't seen in Black Adam. So I still think that they could all 119 00:11:31,001 --> 00:11:36,990 be a part of the same JSA team together. So yeah, I would love it if Black Adam. was still 120 00:11:37,010 --> 00:11:41,773 a part of the new universe's continuity. I don't see a reason why that wouldn't be the case. 121 00:11:42,314 --> 00:11:46,197 Yeah, it would be cool to see all this Hodge again as Hawkman. Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure 122 00:11:46,217 --> 00:11:51,221 if there's any bad blood between James Gunn and the Rock, considering that James Gunn kind 123 00:11:51,241 --> 00:11:55,484 of took over the universe when the Rock wanted to shepherd that role. But I would love to 124 00:11:55,504 --> 00:12:00,188 see the Rock return as Black Adam, regardless. Yeah, we spoke earlier about the theme of legacy 125 00:12:00,248 --> 00:12:06,459 regarding the Titans superhero team. JSA is also all about legacy, probably even more so 126 00:12:06,539 --> 00:12:11,881 than the Titans because JSA actually spans multiple generations of heroes. So, you know in keeping 127 00:12:11,901 --> 00:12:18,284 with that theme, I think JSA absolutely should have an important role within James Gunn's 128 00:12:18,324 --> 00:12:24,186 DCU. Yeah, 100% and the JSA was one of the coolest aspects of the Black Adam movie. So I would 129 00:12:24,206 --> 00:12:28,588 love to see all of those characters return. Great answer Lizzie, you win this week's No 130 00:12:28,628 --> 00:12:32,828 Prize. If you're the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize. Stay tuned till 131 00:12:32,848 --> 00:12:38,005 later on in this episode when we'll ask another question of the week. And now that that's done, 132 00:12:38,025 --> 00:12:38,828 on to the news! 133 00:12:44,482 --> 00:12:48,645 Alright this past week we got a new trailer for Marvel's Spider-Man 2 video game that's 134 00:12:48,665 --> 00:12:53,810 gonna come out exclusively on the PS5. In just a few weeks, on October 20th, the trailer was 135 00:12:53,850 --> 00:13:00,056 called B-Grader Together and it shows Peter Parker's Spider-Man fighting alongside Miles 136 00:13:00,096 --> 00:13:06,041 Morales' Spider-Man against the villain Venom. And the game looks incredible. You know, it 137 00:13:06,061 --> 00:13:09,624 looks like both characters are dealing with their own drama and stuff like that, but they 138 00:13:09,704 --> 00:13:15,149 both, by the end... have this resolve of being Spider-Man and they take on Venom and the graphics 139 00:13:15,189 --> 00:13:20,473 look incredible. We know that gameplay is going to be split up between the two characters and 140 00:13:20,533 --> 00:13:25,678 offer very different feels to the gameplay where Miles Morales has the powers of the Venom Blast 141 00:13:25,918 --> 00:13:31,623 and invisibility, whereas Spider-Man will not only have the symbiote powers for some parts 142 00:13:31,663 --> 00:13:36,787 of the game, but this trailer also reveals that he'll also have the Iron Spider or Superior 143 00:13:36,827 --> 00:13:41,623 Spider-Man mechanical arms that come out of his back. So it looks like it's adding a whole 144 00:13:41,663 --> 00:13:46,247 lot more dynamics to the Spider-Man game that initially came out with the last generation, 145 00:13:46,828 --> 00:13:51,632 widely acclaimed as one of the best, if not the best, superhero video game of all time. 146 00:13:52,052 --> 00:13:56,836 I know Jonathan disputes that with the Arkham video games, but he's wrong. The best superhero 147 00:13:56,857 --> 00:14:01,921 video game is actually Spider-Man for the PS4. I mean, I've played the Arkham games, so that's 148 00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:07,354 just, you know, for my opinion. But no, I hear great things about the Spider-Man game. And 149 00:14:07,474 --> 00:14:14,756 I've played some amazing Spider-Man games in my time. So I don't not believe it. Of course, 150 00:14:15,316 --> 00:14:21,138 Jonathan and I aren't huge gamers. We used to be, but kind of fell out of that when I stopped 151 00:14:21,178 --> 00:14:25,999 buying the current consoles. Like, I don't have a PS5, which is devastating to me when I look 152 00:14:26,019 --> 00:14:31,180 at how cool this game is. I have not played the PS4 Spider-Man game, and I do want to get 153 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:35,630 to that. I do have a PS4. I should probably get the game. What the hell am I doing? Well, 154 00:14:35,690 --> 00:14:41,273 I don't know you had a PS4. Yeah. Well, my wife does. Yeah, she bought the Harry Potter game. 155 00:14:42,473 --> 00:14:45,995 She's probably more of a gamer than I am. It's like it's really hard for me to find the time. 156 00:14:46,355 --> 00:14:53,659 I sound like a total lame ass right now. Yeah, it sounds like excuses. But, you know, it's 157 00:14:53,699 --> 00:14:59,202 hard to find time to play the games when you have a podcast. Again, excuses. I would find 158 00:14:59,222 --> 00:15:06,066 the time. Yeah, I definitely should. Because I'm sick. I can't go into work today. or tomorrow, 159 00:15:06,787 --> 00:15:10,749 play it straight all the way through. I really hope no one from my work is listening to this 160 00:15:10,990 --> 00:15:14,932 because I've never done that. And well, the Batman Arkham games are coming out for the 161 00:15:14,992 --> 00:15:19,355 switch later. Jonathan, you have a switch. Are you going to get those games? Oh, absolutely. 162 00:15:19,395 --> 00:15:24,179 I mean, I'm really sad that the release date for that got delayed from this month, October 163 00:15:24,239 --> 00:15:29,342 to December, because I was ready to play it. Like so ready. But, you know, I've also already 164 00:15:29,383 --> 00:15:34,546 played those games. Yeah. If the superhero movies ever kind of like die down. due to like superhero 165 00:15:34,566 --> 00:15:39,189 fatigue or something like that. And we actually have the time to dedicate to reviewing superhero 166 00:15:39,229 --> 00:15:44,351 video games. That is totally a direction I would love to take this podcast. I mean, Marvel, 167 00:15:44,391 --> 00:15:50,555 if you want to send Joseph a PS5 and a copy of the game, he'll review it. And a million 168 00:15:50,595 --> 00:15:55,798 dollars, totally. I will accept that. Okay, I mean, that's a bit much. What are you doing? 169 00:15:56,198 --> 00:15:59,359 Yeah, I may have overshot. You always ask for more, then they'll just meet you in the middle. 170 00:15:59,540 --> 00:16:05,250 Exactly, now you get it. But a word on the street is that Marvel has been making some internal 171 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:10,592 changes to dedicate more resources toward producing video games because they know that they're 172 00:16:10,632 --> 00:16:16,475 slacking in that department given the recent critical and or commercial failures of Guardians 173 00:16:16,515 --> 00:16:22,817 of the Galaxy, The Avengers, and Midnight Suns. The new Wolverine game produced by Insomniac 174 00:16:22,857 --> 00:16:27,980 Games is still on track to come out, still supposed to be amazing. We know that Motive is creating 175 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:33,594 an Iron Man game and Cliffhanger Games is creating a Black Panther video game. From here on out, 176 00:16:33,934 --> 00:16:38,917 all Marvel games are incredible 100% of the time. I'm still waiting to hear more about 177 00:16:39,097 --> 00:16:43,439 Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League and the Wonder Ruin video game. Yeah, a lot of good 178 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,782 stuff in the works. I definitely gotta get a current gen console. Besides the Switch, because 179 00:16:48,062 --> 00:16:52,144 for some reason, a lot of stuff doesn't get ported over to the Switch. Or it just looks 180 00:16:52,325 --> 00:16:57,407 really ugly when it does, like for Mortal Kombat 1. Right, right. But speaking about video games 181 00:16:57,427 --> 00:17:00,609 that we have not seen yet, that brings us to our question of the week. 182 00:17:05,122 --> 00:17:11,846 What Marvel or DC character that has not headlined their own video game do you want to see get 183 00:17:11,967 --> 00:17:16,210 a solo game? Yeah, I don't know if we've asked this question before. If we have, it's been 184 00:17:16,310 --> 00:17:19,992 a long time. So we could definitely do with a fresh set of answers. But I think it's fun 185 00:17:20,012 --> 00:17:25,016 to think about potential video games that could exist and what they would be like and what 186 00:17:25,036 --> 00:17:29,099 characters would be in them. For this question, we're looking at more solo games in the vein 187 00:17:29,219 --> 00:17:35,324 of Arkham Asylum or Spider-Man for the PS4 or 5. Right, or Wolverine, Iron Man, Black Panther, 188 00:17:35,344 --> 00:17:39,948 Wonder Woman, all of these solo games that are coming out, games like those. Record your answer 189 00:17:39,968 --> 00:17:43,871 at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the 190 00:17:43,891 --> 00:17:48,315 screen which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long 191 00:17:48,415 --> 00:17:52,218 and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our 192 00:17:52,258 --> 00:17:56,261 favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram 193 00:17:56,682 --> 00:18:00,845 and our email newsletter. Be sure to answer before October 14th. 194 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:11,977 But I think that does it for all the news for this episode. Now let's move on to the main 195 00:18:12,017 --> 00:18:18,069 event, where we reviewed the 2004 Marvel film, Blade Trinity. 196 00:18:33,314 --> 00:18:39,416 Alright Blade Trinity came out in 2004 starring Wesley Snipes, Ryan Reynolds, Jessica Biel, 197 00:18:39,916 --> 00:18:46,659 and directed by David S. Goyer. Yes, this was made by the very same David S. Goyer who wrote 198 00:18:46,719 --> 00:18:52,521 the previous two Blade films, The Dark Knight Trilogy, and Man of Steel. The guy has done 199 00:18:52,561 --> 00:18:57,684 a lot for the comic book superhero genre and has had some incredible ideas along the way 200 00:18:58,264 --> 00:19:03,314 and just seemingly chose not to use any of them for this movie that he directed. Yeah, I remember 201 00:19:03,354 --> 00:19:08,858 looking forward to this movie specifically because David Esquire was so heavily involved. And 202 00:19:08,958 --> 00:19:13,541 I also remember being horribly disappointed by the final result that we got. For sure. 203 00:19:13,581 --> 00:19:17,464 Yeah, the film was definitely not up to the standards that had been set by the previous 204 00:19:17,504 --> 00:19:22,827 two Blade movies, which were directed by a tours in Stephen Norrington and of course, Guillermo 205 00:19:22,847 --> 00:19:27,610 del Toro. And they were fantastic. Those are great movies. Yeah, great movies. If you're 206 00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:33,702 not already aware how disappointing Blade Trinity is because you haven't seen it. Go ahead and 207 00:19:33,762 --> 00:19:39,944 pause this review now and go watch either Blade 1 or Blade 2, not Blade Trinity, because it 208 00:19:40,024 --> 00:19:44,625 really just doesn't compare to the otherwise stellar franchise. And the film's really only 209 00:19:44,665 --> 00:19:51,567 enjoyable on a very surface level, in that yes, it has action, it has vampires, but it doesn't 210 00:19:51,587 --> 00:19:55,928 have any character building, it doesn't have the dark narrative or artistic style that made 211 00:19:55,968 --> 00:20:00,789 the previous film so good. I don't recommend this film. If you're still here, here's your 212 00:20:00,829 --> 00:20:06,463 spoiler warning. we've established that the movie is not great and the quality is largely 213 00:20:06,503 --> 00:20:11,524 the result of a troubled production behind the scenes. I don't usually go into behind the 214 00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:15,865 scenes stuff in my reviews because I think the film should stand on its own without knowing 215 00:20:16,065 --> 00:20:21,107 how the sausage is made, as it were, or the blood sausage in this case. But I think it's 216 00:20:21,127 --> 00:20:26,168 important to know the context here because when you bite into a blood sausage and it tastes 217 00:20:26,188 --> 00:20:31,009 like shit, it's one thing to say, hmm, yes, this sausage was not enjoyable. But really, 218 00:20:31,518 --> 00:20:38,021 I would be like, how did shit get into this sausage, man? My wife told me to scrap the 219 00:20:38,041 --> 00:20:42,824 whole sausage metaphor, but you know what? I'm keeping it because it fits. Because behind 220 00:20:42,844 --> 00:20:47,567 the scenes, Wesley Snipes basically sabotaged the filming process because he knew the movie 221 00:20:47,607 --> 00:20:51,329 would be bad and didn't want to be involved in it even though he was likely contractually 222 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:55,972 obligated. Well, he was an executive producer on it, wasn't he? Exactly. Yeah. And that's 223 00:20:55,992 --> 00:21:00,374 kind of where the whole issue stems from. Because... As an executive producer, he did have some 224 00:21:00,414 --> 00:21:04,675 authority here that was for the most part ignored. You know, at first he didn't like the script, 225 00:21:04,875 --> 00:21:09,717 which I entirely understand, and he didn't like the studio's first choice of director, which 226 00:21:09,757 --> 00:21:15,138 prompted New Line to name David Goyer as the director, which Snipes also didn't like, which 227 00:21:15,178 --> 00:21:20,980 is again totally understandable because Goyer sucks as a director. Good writer, shitty director. 228 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:25,941 And Snipes was understandably pissed that he had little to no control over the production 229 00:21:25,981 --> 00:21:30,575 despite the fact that he was not only the star and a big part of why the franchise was so 230 00:21:30,615 --> 00:21:35,417 successful to begin with, but he also had an executive producer credit. That all I understand 231 00:21:35,457 --> 00:21:39,779 where Snipes was coming from. I think he understood that the scripts needed to be reworked from 232 00:21:39,819 --> 00:21:45,001 the ground up, basically, and I couldn't agree more. What I can't agree with is how he exacerbated 233 00:21:45,041 --> 00:21:49,703 the situation by essentially not participating during the shoot. You know, it made the film 234 00:21:49,783 --> 00:21:54,005 even worse than it would have been, and essentially he handed the spotlight to other characters 235 00:21:54,025 --> 00:21:58,519 that were frankly less interesting. than himself. You know, it made him look unprofessional. 236 00:21:58,959 --> 00:22:02,720 And at the end of the day, everyone was talking more about how surprised they were that Ryan 237 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,522 Reynolds could be an action star than about the character of Blade. Yeah. According to 238 00:22:07,622 --> 00:22:12,344 some actors that were on the set, like Patton Oswalt, Wesley Snipes basically stood in his 239 00:22:12,384 --> 00:22:16,826 trailer the whole day, smoking weed, didn't come to set when he was called and even got 240 00:22:16,846 --> 00:22:22,729 into some physical altercations with David S. Goyer and other cast members. I feel like I 241 00:22:22,749 --> 00:22:27,640 would have slapped David S. Goyer too. if I were made to star in this movie. Jeez! So, 242 00:22:28,661 --> 00:22:33,605 but no, like, you know, the whole communicating with other production members via post-it notes 243 00:22:33,625 --> 00:22:38,750 and stuff like that is just childish. I can't imagine how awkward and uncomfortable the shooting 244 00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:42,833 experience was for this film. And you know, the end result speaks for itself. You know, 245 00:22:43,034 --> 00:22:47,257 the film crew had to make a lot of concessions, the script had to be changed regularly, all 246 00:22:47,297 --> 00:22:51,201 to work around Wesley Snipes, who was missing in action. Beyond that though, there were a 247 00:22:51,241 --> 00:22:55,194 lot of really... decisions made along the way that had nothing to do with Wesley Snipes. 248 00:22:55,234 --> 00:22:59,155 You know, story-wise, the whole Blade Trinity story is nonsensical in that it shoehorned 249 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:05,817 Dracula, the fucking Lord of Vampires, mind you, into a plot that really relegated him 250 00:23:05,877 --> 00:23:10,198 as a henchman to the House of Talos vampires who were plotting to set up a chain of human 251 00:23:10,258 --> 00:23:14,660 blood farms, even though that whole plan had very little bearing on anything outside of 252 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,641 the scene that it was in. The film really is about Blade joining this ragtag group of vampire 253 00:23:19,661 --> 00:23:24,131 hunters known as the Nightstalkers, where we see him suffer through Ryan Reynolds endless 254 00:23:24,191 --> 00:23:28,774 exposition about Dracula, the vampire final solution and the chemical weapon that the team 255 00:23:28,794 --> 00:23:34,678 had been working on that is all told and barely shown. Yeah, I could see how Wesley Snipes 256 00:23:35,179 --> 00:23:40,362 made the argument that he felt like the whole franchise was moving in a direction to highlight 257 00:23:40,402 --> 00:23:46,266 these new upcoming stars and characters and not him. Again, as we know, he's partially 258 00:23:46,306 --> 00:23:51,646 to blame for that because he was on set a lot. But the whole film, I kind of felt like Ryan 259 00:23:51,686 --> 00:23:56,590 Reynolds was sort of making fun of Blade. And I think that's a really bad position to put 260 00:23:56,610 --> 00:24:01,694 the character in. For sure, for sure. You know, Wesley Snipes is a goddamn legend. You know, 261 00:24:01,814 --> 00:24:06,858 Passenger 57, always bet on Black. The dude has made some incredible action films over 262 00:24:06,878 --> 00:24:13,063 the years and to really have him kind of make way for this new up and coming generation of 263 00:24:13,184 --> 00:24:19,829 former TV stars, I think was a little insulting to his ego, but rightfully so, you know, in 264 00:24:19,869 --> 00:24:24,719 my opinion. Absolutely. Yeah, I agree. Ryan Reynolds is just lucky that he was charismatic 265 00:24:24,739 --> 00:24:30,240 enough and a good enough action star to actually parlay this into future comic book roles and 266 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,401 eventually the ultimate comic book role for him in Deadpool. Yeah, watching this movie, 267 00:24:34,441 --> 00:24:38,983 I just was thinking like, how pissed off is Wesley Snipes that the Deadpool movies did 268 00:24:39,023 --> 00:24:43,044 so financially well? Well, I'm sure he probably wished he had some of that money, honestly. 269 00:24:44,144 --> 00:24:49,785 Yeah, despite having a lackluster story, what the movie does have in spades is attitude. 270 00:24:50,262 --> 00:24:55,286 You know, it features a badass trio of vampire hunters that kick all kinds of ass shot in 271 00:24:55,326 --> 00:25:01,531 a cinematic style reminiscent of a made for TV sci-fi film. You know, Gone are the stylistic 272 00:25:01,571 --> 00:25:07,656 worlds of the first Blade films where they had deep shadows, you know, satin reds, sharp contrasts 273 00:25:07,696 --> 00:25:12,741 that were a huge part of the visual appeal of the franchise. Also Gone is the slick fight 274 00:25:12,781 --> 00:25:17,745 choreography which in this film was replaced by what looked like slow and over rehearsed 275 00:25:17,825 --> 00:25:23,664 gestures. Also gone from Blade Trinity is all the danger because the worst crime that this 276 00:25:23,704 --> 00:25:29,288 film commits is that it shows us that Blade is not special. Literally anyone can become 277 00:25:29,328 --> 00:25:34,030 a vampire hunter here because apparently vampires are easier to kill than spiders. You know, 278 00:25:34,471 --> 00:25:39,654 they just explode into flames with the slightest poke. Apparently you can fight a vampire hand 279 00:25:39,674 --> 00:25:44,296 to hand without worrying about them trying to bite you or having enhanced strength. Right? 280 00:25:44,477 --> 00:25:49,751 Yeah, the vampires were so- weak in this film compared to the prior two installments. Yeah, 281 00:25:49,771 --> 00:25:54,353 there were no threat whatsoever. So despite the fact that there was, in fact, action in 282 00:25:54,393 --> 00:25:59,395 this movie, there were no stakes to the action. Pun intended. There were actually lots of stakes. 283 00:25:59,535 --> 00:26:03,917 But, you know, the silver kind. Well, I don't know if I necessarily agree with you there, 284 00:26:03,957 --> 00:26:08,939 because this film set up some of the more interesting stakes of the entire franchise in the blood 285 00:26:08,979 --> 00:26:14,481 farms. They didn't do nearly enough with that. The fact that they could take hundreds of homeless 286 00:26:14,521 --> 00:26:19,415 people from cities and just farm them for their blood was pretty shocking the first time I 287 00:26:19,455 --> 00:26:24,837 saw this movie. I feel like those stakes pale in comparison to the stakes of Blade 2 where 288 00:26:24,857 --> 00:26:30,700 we saw that Reavers could multiply so quickly and to the stakes of Blade 1 where Deacon Frost 289 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:36,642 became Lemagra. Dude, Lemagra was not a threat to society. It was supposed to be this blood 290 00:26:36,682 --> 00:26:41,805 god and it was just some dude who could regenerate a hand. Like big fucking deal. These stakes 291 00:26:41,845 --> 00:26:47,628 were way more heavy than Lemagra. No, Lamagra was all powerful and if they didn't have the 292 00:26:47,708 --> 00:26:52,651 EDTA that exploded him, he would have been unstoppable. Someone would have figured that out sooner 293 00:26:52,671 --> 00:26:57,635 or later. Oh, sure. OK. No, I think the immediate threat of this blood god guy coming at you 294 00:26:57,735 --> 00:27:02,338 seems much more high stakes than people you don't know about getting kidnapped. But what 295 00:27:02,358 --> 00:27:05,920 if it was somebody you knew about? What if it was like your child or your mom or something 296 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,703 like that? You know, the potential is there. Yeah, then they probably should have showed 297 00:27:09,723 --> 00:27:13,505 something like that where this was directly affecting the people that were in the film. 298 00:27:14,022 --> 00:27:18,844 Oh, absolutely. I think instead of killing or kidnapping the Night Stalkers that they were 299 00:27:18,864 --> 00:27:22,586 working with, they should have put them into a blood farm. They should have. That would 300 00:27:22,606 --> 00:27:27,189 have been way better than what they did. The film does have a few things going for it. I'll 301 00:27:27,209 --> 00:27:32,232 say that the visual effects were decent enough. I really like the fire effects when the vampires 302 00:27:32,252 --> 00:27:36,874 would die. And while the jokes felt entirely out of place for a Blade film, there were some 303 00:27:36,894 --> 00:27:41,317 that made me chuckle because Ryan Reynolds has great delivery. But let's talk more about the 304 00:27:41,357 --> 00:27:46,979 cast in our character breakdown. starting with Blade, aka Eric Brooks, who's played by Wesley 305 00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:52,060 Snipes. As we discussed before, he was entirely checked out nearly this entire film and was 306 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,582 a huge detriment to the production. All that said, Wesley Snipes was fine, I think, in this 307 00:27:57,622 --> 00:28:02,143 movie and the stuff that he was actually in. I think he should have cooperated to be in 308 00:28:02,183 --> 00:28:06,825 more of the film because after giving us two awesome movies in Blade and Blade 2, I think 309 00:28:06,885 --> 00:28:11,562 he at least deserved a worthy send off, which he did not get. Yeah, I think he started off 310 00:28:11,702 --> 00:28:17,305 great in the movie for the most part, up until Hannibal King showed up and then the Night 311 00:28:17,325 --> 00:28:21,628 Stalkers kind of just took over. Yeah. The scene where he's, you know, being interrogated and 312 00:28:21,648 --> 00:28:27,591 stuff, I thought he did a OK job with his performance and really nothing after that was memorable 313 00:28:27,631 --> 00:28:32,674 in any way. Yeah, I think largely because Blade has no real arc in the movie. In the beginning, 314 00:28:32,714 --> 00:28:38,757 he loses his mentor and he's arrested. And even Donna Katalos was like, you're all alone, Blade. 315 00:28:38,797 --> 00:28:43,430 No one's going to help you now. So they're really hammering home that he's by himself, he's isolated, 316 00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:48,392 but all of a sudden, he has the opportunity to bond with and form a new family with the 317 00:28:48,432 --> 00:28:53,533 Night Stalkers who rescue him. And you would think that the film would be about him learning 318 00:28:53,613 --> 00:29:00,075 how to adopt this new family into his life and become part of something greater, but in the 319 00:29:00,195 --> 00:29:04,536 end, he basically says fuck him and goes off on his own. You know, he doesn't really learn 320 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:08,997 anything. He doesn't grow as a character. He simply defeats the villain at the end and moves 321 00:29:09,097 --> 00:29:15,181 on. I think the theme they were trying to go with for the character was purpose and purposelessness 322 00:29:15,281 --> 00:29:20,243 in your life. Like, what do you do when you're no longer needed? And what do you do when everyone 323 00:29:20,283 --> 00:29:25,026 around you has died that you love and you don't really want to be around anymore? I think the 324 00:29:25,046 --> 00:29:30,549 whole notion of a virus that could lead to the extinction of the vampire race and potentially 325 00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:36,573 even Blade was one that he grappled with barely in this movie, and I think it's something that 326 00:29:36,593 --> 00:29:41,688 they should have explored a little bit more. just the mortality around Blade. Well, I mean, 327 00:29:41,708 --> 00:29:47,193 because as long as vampires exist, Blade has a purpose. Exactly. And at the end of the film, 328 00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:52,477 they don't really do anything to address that. They say, you know, oh, the fight is never 329 00:29:52,537 --> 00:29:57,481 lost, but isn't it because that virus is gonna spread around the world and kill all the vampires? 330 00:29:57,861 --> 00:30:03,126 It of course is gonna move faster than Blade is gonna be able to. So what is Blade's purpose 331 00:30:03,186 --> 00:30:08,950 at the end? They don't really say. Well, there's a lot of ambiguity as to what the Daystar Virus 332 00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:14,013 actually did because Somerset's character stated that all the vampires in the immediate vicinity 333 00:30:14,193 --> 00:30:18,395 would automatically die. I know that they were working on something that would destroy all 334 00:30:18,415 --> 00:30:23,778 vampires, but that's not what she said in her video. I think really the Daystar Virus only 335 00:30:23,818 --> 00:30:28,821 affects a limited range before it becomes too spread out into the atmosphere. So they're 336 00:30:28,841 --> 00:30:32,923 gonna have to make more of this stuff and use it against more groups of vampires, I think, 337 00:30:32,983 --> 00:30:37,005 to actually kill off all of them. And that's where Blade's mission is headed at the end 338 00:30:37,025 --> 00:30:42,119 of the film. Okay, I didn't hear someone say the whole vicinity thing. I was under the impression, 339 00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:47,080 I guess, just in this post-COVID world, that viruses like to spread. Yeah, I don't think 340 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,562 this works quite that way because the vampires die immediately, as opposed to walking around 341 00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:57,403 and spreading it to other vampires. So that makes sense. It would be interesting when Daystar 342 00:30:57,503 --> 00:31:02,204 is put into mass production, if it is. And then Blade uses it on all the vampires. And then 343 00:31:02,424 --> 00:31:06,965 what happens? You're right. I guess, like Hannibal King's character asked, does he start teaching 344 00:31:07,278 --> 00:31:12,781 karate at the Y or something, who knows. Right. Let's move on to Hannibal King, who was played 345 00:31:12,821 --> 00:31:17,763 by Ryan Reynolds. My first thought watching this movie for the first time was that Ryan 346 00:31:17,803 --> 00:31:23,306 Reynolds was great, but that he was in an entirely different movie. The more I think about it 347 00:31:23,347 --> 00:31:28,970 though, this is entirely his movie. This is more Hannibal King's movie than it is Blades. 348 00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:33,772 And while Ryan Reynolds absolutely deserved his big action break at the time, because he 349 00:31:33,812 --> 00:31:38,439 turned into a fascinating action star, I do wish that it wasn't with this movie. You know, 350 00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:42,580 they should have put them in 2004's I, Robot or something, but keep them away from the Blade 351 00:31:42,601 --> 00:31:49,744 franchise because cool gothic action horror does not jive with quirky, jokey action films 352 00:31:49,784 --> 00:31:54,106 like Deadpool. Like the type of action films that Ryan Reynolds is great at. Yeah, I've 353 00:31:54,186 --> 00:31:59,268 always considered the Blade franchise to be primarily horror and primarily horror and action. 354 00:31:59,608 --> 00:32:04,675 And you're right. The more you make fun of that whole thing. the less serious it becomes. And 355 00:32:04,715 --> 00:32:09,239 I think that's a detriment to the franchise. Absolutely, yeah. I think they were going for 356 00:32:09,259 --> 00:32:15,184 a foil for Blade because you know, Wesley Snipes Blade is colder than ice, but it was just too 357 00:32:15,244 --> 00:32:19,588 much. It was just way too much. Yeah, too many jokes, too much comedy for what should be a 358 00:32:19,628 --> 00:32:24,452 very serious, straightforward vampire action horror. Hannibal King's motivation revolves, 359 00:32:24,552 --> 00:32:28,515 I think, redemption for the fact that he used to be a vampire. You know, he wants to get 360 00:32:28,555 --> 00:32:32,718 Blade on board with the Night Stalkers, but the guy just isn't game. So he tries to find 361 00:32:32,778 --> 00:32:37,200 humor in the situation. But the jokes that he makes almost seem more like Ryan Reynolds real 362 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,542 life reaction to the issues with production than any sort of actual character arc for Hannibal 363 00:32:42,562 --> 00:32:46,864 King. But fortunately for Ryan Reynolds, he's charismatic and probably ends up being the 364 00:32:46,884 --> 00:32:51,526 best part of the film because of that. Yeah, interestingly so. His backstory was interesting 365 00:32:51,566 --> 00:32:56,568 as well, although I am confused how they cured his vampirism. Was that something to do with 366 00:32:56,628 --> 00:33:01,646 Karen from the first Blade movie? Or was that Somerset? I don't remember if they said. Yeah, 367 00:33:01,666 --> 00:33:07,767 in the first Blade film, Dr. Karen Jensen invented a cure for herself that could only be applied 368 00:33:07,807 --> 00:33:12,248 to people who weren't born vampires. You know, she was bitten by Quinn in the first film, 369 00:33:12,528 --> 00:33:17,270 and yet she ended up not becoming a vampire. And so I think this film carries forward that 370 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:22,071 established canon in that there is a vampire cure. I'm really surprised they didn't find 371 00:33:22,091 --> 00:33:25,672 a way to weaponize that, though, because they're making a weapon out of freaking everything 372 00:33:25,752 --> 00:33:31,566 in this movie. It's like, why not create a vampire cure arrow or bullet or something? Right, if 373 00:33:31,586 --> 00:33:36,668 you could put light into a bullet, you know, you could definitely put a chemical agent into 374 00:33:36,888 --> 00:33:42,370 a bullet. And instead of, you know, killing all these vampires who probably didn't want 375 00:33:42,390 --> 00:33:47,052 to be turned in the first place necessarily, some of them at least, you can cure them and 376 00:33:47,092 --> 00:33:51,454 have them go back to living their own lives and perhaps even get more vampire hunters in 377 00:33:51,474 --> 00:33:56,036 the process. Pretty interesting. Let's go ahead and move on to Abigail Whistler, who is played 378 00:33:56,076 --> 00:34:02,346 by Jessica Beale. Jessica Beale is in fact in this movie. And that's pretty much all there 379 00:34:02,386 --> 00:34:07,167 is to be said about her performance. She barely had anything to do here. She kicks a lot of 380 00:34:07,327 --> 00:34:12,769 ass and she was fine at that, but she was so one note. She barely has any dialogue, you 381 00:34:12,789 --> 00:34:17,290 know, right. As Whistler's daughter, they should have given her much more character development 382 00:34:17,410 --> 00:34:21,511 other than a gratuitous shower scene where she reflects on how her father didn't want her 383 00:34:21,531 --> 00:34:26,552 to be a hunter, because that was literally all we really got. That really informed who she 384 00:34:26,633 --> 00:34:32,739 is. Yeah, that shower scene was so pointless. I would have loved to get some more dialogue 385 00:34:32,759 --> 00:34:38,184 between her and Blade and really just talk about her father. It could have been such a great 386 00:34:38,224 --> 00:34:43,028 like mentor mentee kind of relationship where Blade feels very protective of her and it feels 387 00:34:43,068 --> 00:34:47,992 responsible for her in some way, almost like as a replacement father figure. But we got 388 00:34:48,112 --> 00:34:53,556 none of that. I have to wonder if that was the original intention for the character. Although 389 00:34:53,576 --> 00:34:59,381 it may not be because I do remember reading somewhere that Abigail was originally Abigail 390 00:34:59,421 --> 00:35:04,759 Van Helsing. No, it was Rachel Van Helsing from the comics. But I guess they couldn't do that 391 00:35:04,779 --> 00:35:08,701 because of Hugh Jackman's Van Helsing film. Yeah, Hugh Jackman's Van Helsing film came 392 00:35:08,741 --> 00:35:13,063 out the same year that this one did 2004. So they kind of had to steer clear of that because 393 00:35:13,463 --> 00:35:17,425 they would have got sued probably by Universal. Van Helsing actually ended up being a much 394 00:35:17,605 --> 00:35:22,247 cooler vampire hunter film than Blade Trinity did. Yeah, yeah, actually, Van Helsing is like 395 00:35:22,267 --> 00:35:27,989 a guilty pleasure of mine. Let's go to move on to Dracula, aka Drake. I don't know why. 396 00:35:29,050 --> 00:35:35,974 played by Dominic Purcell. Fucking god damn it. Dracula in this movie sucked. And I know 397 00:35:35,994 --> 00:35:41,177 he's a vampire and he's supposed to suck, but in this case, it wasn't blood that he sucked. 398 00:35:41,617 --> 00:35:46,560 It was ass. Who was this character? Because it wasn't Dracula from the comics. I know that. 399 00:35:46,580 --> 00:35:52,584 You know, up to this point, the Blade franchise was known for its really compelling, cool villains 400 00:35:52,904 --> 00:35:58,709 like Deacon Frost and Nomak. both of whom were incredibly complex and dangerous characters. 401 00:35:59,229 --> 00:36:04,214 But freaking Drake was a bargain bin mishmash of the two that they kind of slapped some leather 402 00:36:04,254 --> 00:36:09,159 pants on and said, nailed it. You know, the comics character of Dracula here was entirely 403 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:15,345 wasted. He was uninteresting with no real motivations. You know, he came with the vampires to the 404 00:36:15,385 --> 00:36:20,329 house of Talos because God knows why. Right. He didn't even want to be woken up, you know. 405 00:36:20,962 --> 00:36:26,166 He has no respect for modern vampires because they don't live by the sword like him and Blade. 406 00:36:26,626 --> 00:36:32,051 And yet, he does the bidding of these other vampires despite the fact that they came up 407 00:36:32,091 --> 00:36:37,955 with the laziest means of acquiring blood. Not through hunting, but by essentially farming 408 00:36:37,995 --> 00:36:43,340 them. And then he fights Blade only to be cheap-shotted in the end with the arrowhead and he's like, 409 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:51,498 oh you fought with honor Blade. Everything about Drake was just horrible. It was ridiculous. 410 00:36:51,998 --> 00:36:56,781 I don't want to say everything. I do like two things that they did with him. One was making 411 00:36:56,821 --> 00:37:02,624 him like this Sumerian ancient, almost like deity type character. They really stepped away 412 00:37:02,664 --> 00:37:07,487 from Bram Stroker's version and I guess the comic version, like you mentioned, to make 413 00:37:07,507 --> 00:37:12,930 him something much more ancient. I thought that was kind of interesting. I also didn't hate 414 00:37:13,050 --> 00:37:18,073 the look of him when he was in his full vampire form. I wish they would have given him wings 415 00:37:18,153 --> 00:37:21,486 or something like that. because that would have been very different from something that Blade 416 00:37:21,506 --> 00:37:26,207 has gone up against in the past. Yeah, maybe it was out of budget or whatever. But those 417 00:37:26,227 --> 00:37:30,349 two things were fine. Everything else you write, that was garbage. Yeah, actually, Steven Norrington 418 00:37:30,389 --> 00:37:36,470 designed the look of full out transformed Dracula as this like deeming creature. I did think 419 00:37:36,490 --> 00:37:40,731 that was pretty cool up until the point where he said motherfucker, which I thought was the 420 00:37:40,771 --> 00:37:47,173 cheesiest shit I've ever seen in my entire life. So stupid. I love they had like a chain on 421 00:37:47,233 --> 00:37:52,751 to those so hip. It makes no sense for Demon Dracula to be wearing a gold chain. Last but 422 00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:57,353 not least, let's talk about Donnika Talos who is played by Parker Posey. I thought I couldn't 423 00:37:57,373 --> 00:38:03,156 roll my eyes harder at a villain in a film more than Drake and yet here we have Parker Posey 424 00:38:03,216 --> 00:38:08,218 as Donnika Talos who is so campy it's like she thought she was in the Joel Schumacher Batman 425 00:38:08,238 --> 00:38:14,440 movies. She looks and acts so ridiculous it's clear Parker Posey didn't have any knowledge 426 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:19,287 or perhaps respect for the source material. Or maybe she was just too uncertain how to 427 00:38:19,327 --> 00:38:24,150 approach the character, so just decided to ham it up with the fangs. Regardless, Parker Posey 428 00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:28,073 was not good and I don't understand how she was cast in this movie. I kind of feel like 429 00:38:28,113 --> 00:38:33,557 she hadn't seen the prior Blade films. Oh, I guarantee you she didn't. Yeah, no, I do feel 430 00:38:33,577 --> 00:38:37,340 like a lot of it was due to the way she was written. I think she was just trying to make 431 00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:43,064 the best of what was on the page for her. But yeah, it was not well done by any means. Damn 432 00:38:43,144 --> 00:38:51,423 it, Blade. We had him. And her relationship with Drake was just weird. Because like, she 433 00:38:51,463 --> 00:38:55,465 didn't want to control him, she didn't want to like clue him in onto anything that they 434 00:38:55,485 --> 00:39:01,127 were doing. It just didn't make any sense whatsoever. Well, she just wanted Drake to kill Blade because 435 00:39:01,208 --> 00:39:05,449 Blade was the only thing that could have stopped their vampire's final solution, their human 436 00:39:05,469 --> 00:39:11,312 farms. Really, she was just trying to use Drake, but the idea of Dracula, Lord of the Vampires, 437 00:39:11,352 --> 00:39:17,142 being used by some dumbass just doesn't sit well with me. It really, really made me miss 438 00:39:17,162 --> 00:39:22,445 like the vampire councils that we saw in the early Blade films. This was just such a far 439 00:39:22,485 --> 00:39:27,848 cry from then. So depressing by comparison. Yeah, it was like David Goyer was trying to 440 00:39:27,868 --> 00:39:31,810 make a Christopher Guest movie considering he also cast, you know, John Michael Higgins as 441 00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:36,433 Dr. Vance. That's right. It's so weird. You know, if there was ever a Venn diagram that 442 00:39:36,453 --> 00:39:41,396 should never have existed, it's Christopher Guest comedies intersecting with the Blade 443 00:39:41,416 --> 00:39:47,301 franchise in Blade Trinity. I hate that that's a thing. I didn't think about that. That's 444 00:39:47,341 --> 00:39:47,605 great. 445 00:39:55,086 --> 00:39:59,330 Let's go ahead and move into the story highlights. Danica Talos and her group of vampires enter 446 00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:04,616 an ancient tomb in the Sumerian desert where they find the original vampire, Dracula, as 447 00:40:04,656 --> 00:40:08,961 part of their final solution against humanity. To prevent Blade from interfering in their 448 00:40:09,001 --> 00:40:13,706 plans, the House of Talos film him murdering one of their human familiars, leading to a 449 00:40:13,786 --> 00:40:19,083 manhunt from the FBI and the local chief of police. I want to know how Dracula actually 450 00:40:19,243 --> 00:40:25,088 factored into their plans considering that they had this idea to frame Blade, get him arrested, 451 00:40:25,549 --> 00:40:29,633 and then likely kill him while incarcerated, right? Drake doesn't have to be any part of 452 00:40:29,673 --> 00:40:34,617 that, so why did they go dig him up to begin with? Yes, they wanted him to kill Blade, but 453 00:40:34,817 --> 00:40:39,742 they also had this other plan that was just as, if not more so, effective. Yeah, I was 454 00:40:39,762 --> 00:40:44,626 wondering if maybe they just dug Dracula up because they could? Because they- discovered 455 00:40:44,666 --> 00:40:49,108 his location or found where they thought he might be and just wanted to see what it would 456 00:40:49,128 --> 00:40:54,531 be like to resurrect him. But yeah, that seems kind of risky when you have this huge plan 457 00:40:55,032 --> 00:41:00,875 and the potential for the original vampire to resurrect and upturn things. Yes, essentially 458 00:41:00,915 --> 00:41:05,498 since the first action that Dracula does coming out of the ground is fucking bite another vampire's 459 00:41:05,518 --> 00:41:10,201 head clean off, you know. Exactly. At that point, I would have been like, maybe this isn't a 460 00:41:10,241 --> 00:41:15,605 great idea to have. Drake as our backup plan against Blade. Every time you call him Drake, 461 00:41:15,665 --> 00:41:22,872 I die a little. Also mentioning their whole plan to frame Blade and capture him. Why the 462 00:41:22,972 --> 00:41:27,155 fuck didn't they just kill him when they had him at the police station? Considering they 463 00:41:27,356 --> 00:41:32,300 own the police. I kind of have an issue with this whole plan in general because largely 464 00:41:32,781 --> 00:41:37,525 Blade kind of existed in his own world apart from the rest of humanity in the first two 465 00:41:37,545 --> 00:41:42,435 Blade films. So it's really strange to have like normal humans and like the FBI and the 466 00:41:42,455 --> 00:41:47,477 local police all of a sudden be a factor in this. When they were largely absent in previous 467 00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:52,039 installments, like in the first Blade movie, Blade even point blank tried to shoot Deacon 468 00:41:52,059 --> 00:41:56,701 Frost in broad daylight at the park. And Deacon Frost dodged the bullets. We didn't ever know 469 00:41:56,721 --> 00:42:00,843 what happened to the bullets or if the police were called or anything like that. But it made 470 00:42:00,883 --> 00:42:05,585 sense for that world because things felt so surreal stylistically, you know, that's not 471 00:42:05,605 --> 00:42:10,256 the case for this film. Well, I just imagine that the police largely avoided Blade because 472 00:42:10,296 --> 00:42:16,200 they were owned by the vampires. That makes sense. You know, it was weird seeing them talk 473 00:42:16,220 --> 00:42:20,603 about Blade like on the news. Yeah, it's like if they were talking about Batman on the news, 474 00:42:20,623 --> 00:42:25,427 like trying to dissect them psychologically and stuff, you know, you don't see that done 475 00:42:25,467 --> 00:42:30,651 in these movies because it's a stupid ass idea. You know, these characters should be so mysterious 476 00:42:30,671 --> 00:42:35,162 to the general public and they shouldn't be debated on public access television. Well, 477 00:42:35,182 --> 00:42:39,784 I mean, they did that with Superman in Batman v Superman, and I thought that was interesting. 478 00:42:40,304 --> 00:42:44,407 But definitely not with Blade, definitely not with a character that's supposed to be hunting 479 00:42:44,447 --> 00:42:49,870 the secretive class in society. Right. You know, Superman is fair game for public debate because 480 00:42:49,890 --> 00:42:55,753 he's not hiding in the shadows like Blade is. Or vampires. Right. Meanwhile, Abigail Whistler 481 00:42:55,773 --> 00:43:01,276 hunts a group of teenage vampires who are so lame, I'm 100% convinced that Deacon Frost 482 00:43:01,356 --> 00:43:05,962 and Damascenos would have actually paid to have them killed. Yeah, it was a horrible setup 483 00:43:06,043 --> 00:43:10,777 for Abigail, I thought. It's like, oh, she could beat the shit out of these punk asses. Who 484 00:43:10,838 --> 00:43:17,884 can't look at them? Back to the movie, the authorities track Blade and Whistler to their secret base 485 00:43:18,005 --> 00:43:22,708 and infiltrate it killing Whistler and apprehending Blade. He's taken to the local police station 486 00:43:22,969 --> 00:43:28,193 where the vampire hunting team called the Night Stalkers break him out. This movie really made 487 00:43:28,253 --> 00:43:34,098 me miss Chris Christopherson as Whistler for sure. I know David Esquire tried to kill the 488 00:43:34,118 --> 00:43:38,041 character off in the first Blade movie, but he was just so damn good he had to keep coming 489 00:43:38,081 --> 00:43:43,225 back for each one. This movie they finally got rid of him and the film really suffered after 490 00:43:43,265 --> 00:43:47,347 his death. Yeah, and lo and behold, it's the worst Blade movie, so what does that tell you? 491 00:43:47,507 --> 00:43:51,530 I think he just gives such a good performance as the character. Like, you can't help but 492 00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:55,472 love the guy. Yeah, he definitely gave something to the franchise that the Nightstalkers could 493 00:43:55,492 --> 00:44:00,755 not replace. 100%. Taking you back to their headquarters, the Nightstalkers fill Blade 494 00:44:00,875 --> 00:44:05,497 in on their intel regarding Drake and how they will need to join forces to stop him and the 495 00:44:05,517 --> 00:44:11,260 vampire Final Solution. Meanwhile, Dracula walks around town and then kills some hot topic workers. 496 00:44:13,614 --> 00:44:20,340 Uh, why was that scene in this movie? I don't know. Damn it. We've got Dracula vibrators. 497 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,745 Okay. I mean, they're, you know, trying to show how low vampires had come and that they had 498 00:44:25,785 --> 00:44:31,630 become a pop culture gag since Dracula's time, but it was such a stupid scene. Back to the 499 00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:38,837 movie, Blade, Hannibal King, and Abigail interrogate familiars around town. Meanwhile, Abigail listens 500 00:44:38,877 --> 00:44:44,531 to her iPod. The whole music thing, I thought was weird. It was just like a hamfisted kind 501 00:44:44,571 --> 00:44:50,694 of way to insert music into the movie for the soundtrack, I feel like. Yeah. Either that 502 00:44:50,734 --> 00:44:55,836 or like Apple paid them to be in the movie. Apple did not pay them. The most they did was 503 00:44:55,976 --> 00:45:01,738 offer the crew a 60% discount off of the purchases that they made for the film. Wait, is that 504 00:45:01,798 --> 00:45:08,301 real? Yeah. Jeez. Why even put it in then? I don't know. It would have been so easy to cut 505 00:45:08,361 --> 00:45:15,466 out, you know? Oh she's so hip she listens to music as she hunts. Whoa. Back to the movie, 506 00:45:15,506 --> 00:45:21,011 Blade and the Nightstalkers play a visit to Dr. Edgar Vance, a notable psychiatrist. They 507 00:45:21,051 --> 00:45:26,014 find Drake there and Blade chases him through the city, though Drake escapes. Meanwhile, 508 00:45:26,435 --> 00:45:31,379 Abigail gets naked and takes a shower to wash away the blood. We don't see anyone else showering 509 00:45:31,419 --> 00:45:36,482 the blood away, but you know, it's Jessica Biel. There you go. Back to the movie, the Night 510 00:45:36,522 --> 00:45:42,043 Stalkers discover one of Donna Katalos' business fronts, Biomedica Enterprises. Investigating, 511 00:45:42,423 --> 00:45:47,305 Blade and Abigail learn the vampire's final solution is their blood farms where humans 512 00:45:47,345 --> 00:45:52,546 are medically sedated and their blood regularly harvested. Which again, not a terrible idea. 513 00:45:52,586 --> 00:45:56,887 In fact, they made a whole movie about it with Daybreakers as like Ethan Hawke and Willem 514 00:45:56,907 --> 00:46:01,689 Defoe. That was a great movie. Oh really? I hadn't seen it. But I definitely think the 515 00:46:01,709 --> 00:46:07,219 blood farm had much more potential to be explored in this For sure. While Blade and Abigail were 516 00:46:07,259 --> 00:46:11,281 gone, Drake shows up at the Nightstalker's base. I don't know how he learned where the base 517 00:46:11,301 --> 00:46:16,004 was, but he kills most of the Nightstalkers, abducting Hannibal King and a small girl named 518 00:46:16,125 --> 00:46:21,268 Zoe. King is taken to the House of Talos, where Danica and her goons interrogate him about 519 00:46:21,308 --> 00:46:26,711 Blade and the Nightstalker's plans to create a vampire chemical weapon called Daystar. Well 520 00:46:26,731 --> 00:46:32,511 that's true, how did they find the Nightstalker's base? No one knows to this day. All of a sudden 521 00:46:32,531 --> 00:46:37,996 the camera pans up and we see Whistlers there, who is Drake in disguise. We don't know anything 522 00:46:38,276 --> 00:46:42,580 more about how he got there or how the nice Ockers got discovered. They should have established 523 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,304 that maybe Drake has like superhuman senses and like a keen sense of smell like a wolf 524 00:46:48,364 --> 00:46:51,887 or something and that's how he was able to track them down. Wouldn't that be great? That's a 525 00:46:51,907 --> 00:46:56,751 great idea. That is now my head cannon. That's what happened. Armed with a Daystar weapon, 526 00:46:56,831 --> 00:47:02,727 Blade and Abigail infiltrate the house of Talos. rescuing King and kicking ass. Blade sword 527 00:47:02,767 --> 00:47:08,230 fights Drake, during which Abigail fires the Daystar weapon from her bow. Her shot misses, 528 00:47:08,650 --> 00:47:13,373 but Blade grabs the arrow and lodges it in Drake's heart, triggering a chemical reaction that 529 00:47:13,393 --> 00:47:18,535 goes airborne and kills all the vampires in the facility. The fight scenes I thought were 530 00:47:18,695 --> 00:47:23,446 pretty good when it came to Blade going up against all the vampires in the House of Talos. I did 531 00:47:23,486 --> 00:47:28,290 not like Abigail's hand-to-hand fights against the vampires again because I don't think normal 532 00:47:28,330 --> 00:47:33,315 people should be able to go hand-to-hand with vampires. I also didn't care for Hannibal King's 533 00:47:33,355 --> 00:47:37,899 fights in this, especially the one with Triple H. I didn't care for a Triple H at all in this 534 00:47:37,959 --> 00:47:43,784 entire movie, like just cut him from the film completely. Why is that? He's just a really 535 00:47:43,884 --> 00:47:50,866 shitty actor. I thought he was okay. I thought the metal fangs were stupid. The way he went 536 00:47:50,966 --> 00:47:54,568 out was pretty dumb, you know, biting into one of the sundog bullets. I thought that was kind 537 00:47:54,588 --> 00:47:58,270 of lame. I actually didn't mind the fight between him and Hannibal King. But you know, also if 538 00:47:58,290 --> 00:48:03,473 they cut it out of the film, I wouldn't have cared. I do have to ask, what's worse, a Hulk 539 00:48:03,533 --> 00:48:10,417 poodle or a vampire Pomeranian? That's a great question. Uh, you know, I actually like the 540 00:48:10,457 --> 00:48:16,020 vampire Pomeranian as a visual gag in this movie more than I liked a French poodle with Hulk 541 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,923 strength. So gotta go with the Pomeranian on this one. Sorry, the correct answer was neither. 542 00:48:23,663 --> 00:48:29,866 Neither of them work. I really thought it was stupid in the final fight when Drake catches 543 00:48:30,006 --> 00:48:36,228 the Daystar arrow only to drop it on the ground right next to his enemy who could easily pick 544 00:48:36,268 --> 00:48:40,930 it up and stab him with it. Like if you're going to catch the arrow, you know, toss it aside. 545 00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:45,232 Don't drop it into the hands of your foe, you know? Well, I think he just didn't know what 546 00:48:45,272 --> 00:48:51,394 it was. Who cares? Nothing that's any excuse. Yeah. Most convenient shit ever. Well, I think 547 00:48:51,474 --> 00:48:56,456 really it was just so that Abigail wasn't the one who delivered the killing blow, but Blade 548 00:48:56,496 --> 00:49:02,497 was. Yeah, but like the setup was horrible. Yeah, for sure. Dying, Drake commends Blade 549 00:49:02,717 --> 00:49:07,759 and tells him that he is the future of the vampire race. As a parting gift, he shapeshifts into 550 00:49:07,779 --> 00:49:12,660 Blade's body, letting authorities believe they've apprehended him. However, Blade is still out 551 00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:18,666 there, continuing his war against vampires. And thank God it's over. I thought it was a 552 00:49:18,726 --> 00:49:24,590 strange gift from Drake considering that his body reverted while on the autopsy table. So 553 00:49:24,730 --> 00:49:30,454 if the goal was to convince authorities that they had in fact apprehended the guy they've 554 00:49:30,474 --> 00:49:35,697 been after this whole time, it was short-lived. It was only enough time to allow Blade to escape, 555 00:49:35,817 --> 00:49:40,661 but Blade had already escaped by the time that the authorities arrived. He was dragged out 556 00:49:40,701 --> 00:49:43,283 of there, I think, by Abigail and Hannibal King. 557 00:49:48,506 --> 00:49:55,110 I think by the end they just assumed that Blade this entire time was just some white guy disguised 558 00:49:55,130 --> 00:50:00,253 as a black man. Oh my god. I hope that's not the case. I hope that's not what they thought 559 00:50:00,293 --> 00:50:06,596 because that would be problematic. We'll say that. But that's the end of the film. It's 560 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:12,840 not a great movie. The story is not there. The action is there. But again, no stakes because 561 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,274 essentially you could trip over a vampire and kill it. I remember walking out of the theater 562 00:50:17,314 --> 00:50:22,516 for the first time seeing this movie in 2004, just being really disappointed. It was the 563 00:50:22,556 --> 00:50:27,639 most disappointed I think I had been since the 1998 Blade movie. Because that film and everything 564 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,141 after that was pretty good. You know, we got X-Men, we got the Spider-Man films. I guess 565 00:50:32,641 --> 00:50:37,243 the 2004 Punisher movie wasn't that great. But I think I felt more disappointed by Blade Trinity 566 00:50:37,603 --> 00:50:43,525 considering the films that had come prior. Oh, yeah, absolutely. To ultimately see this franchise. 567 00:50:44,034 --> 00:50:49,416 go down with such a sour note was depressing. Depressing is a better word than disappointing, 568 00:50:49,616 --> 00:50:54,418 for sure. Yeah, that's definitely how I felt at the time. Overall, between the low stakes 569 00:50:54,498 --> 00:50:59,160 action, the non-existent character development, the campy villains, and the sidelined main 570 00:50:59,180 --> 00:51:04,382 character make the film feel like it's trying to ice skate uphill. I give the film two and 571 00:51:04,402 --> 00:51:10,745 a half stars out of five, a rotten score on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, I would agree with that. 572 00:51:11,365 --> 00:51:18,465 A lot of people think... 2.5 is an average rating, but you know, per a grading scale, it's an 573 00:51:18,745 --> 00:51:24,849 F, it's a 50%, it's pretty bad. I can even see a case made for two stars, although I definitely 574 00:51:24,909 --> 00:51:30,192 didn't think it was two stars watching it. Same, yeah. Despite how much negative things you 575 00:51:30,212 --> 00:51:36,075 can say about the film in a review, I will admit that watching it is a somewhat lighter experience. 576 00:51:36,555 --> 00:51:40,882 Not that we would recommend doing so. Stick with the first two Blade films. 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Yeah, I haven't seen that film yet, 590 00:52:52,203 --> 00:52:57,346 but I'm definitely looking forward to the remaining episodes in October, including the super secret, 591 00:52:57,386 --> 00:53:01,588 super awesome one that we're dropping on Halloween Day. But that does it for this episode. We 592 00:53:01,608 --> 00:53:06,082 want to give a big thanks to our executive producers. Ken Johnson, John Sturowski, Zachary Hepburn, 593 00:53:06,202 --> 00:53:11,383 Dustin Belcombe, Miggy Matangian, Brendan Estergard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Nick Abonto, 594 00:53:11,583 --> 00:53:17,524 Austin Wazilowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Adam Spies, and Andrew Schunk for helping make 595 00:53:17,564 --> 00:53:22,666 this podcast possible. And we'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers. 596 00:53:23,226 --> 00:53:25,386 Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.