Transcript
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This is a DynaMic Network podcast.
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Welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly
show where we review superhero films and debate
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the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing
their characters in stat-based battle simulations.
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I'm Johnny DC. And I'm his twin brother, Marvelous
Joe. And in this episode, we are doing a duel
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between the characters of Blockbuster and Tombstone.
And I know what you're thinking, but you're
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wrong. This is not, in fact, a battle. between
a 90s era video store and a frozen pizza company,
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it is comic book characters. Obscure ones, but
comic book characters nonetheless. I don't
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think Tombstone is that obscure. He's a pretty
prominent Spider-Man and Daredevil villain.
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I mean, he was in the, into the Spider-Verse
movie. I totally blocked that. Blockbuster
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actually has been in a few animated works before,
so maybe he's not that obscure either. That
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said, when I Google Blockbuster, the first thing
that comes up is not the DC character. Same
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thing with Tombstone, so fair enough. Now this
duel was specifically requested by our executive
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producer, Miggy Mathagean. We'll break down
the characters' histories and abilities and
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run a thousand simulations to find out who would
actually win. Before that, we're gonna break
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down the comic book movie news from the past
week, of which there was just one news item,
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and that was that the Sandman series for Netflix
is ending with season two. Yeah, the day this
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episode drops, we're supposed to get the first
teaser trailer for the Fantastic Four first
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steps movie that's coming out later this summer,
but, you know, that's just our luck. So next
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week we'll be talking about the teaser, but
as always, we list our segment times in our
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episode description, so feel free to check out
the show notes if you want to skip ahead to
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a particular topic. Guys, our artificially intelligent
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Pip pip cheerio. Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone
who supports the podcast. Guys, be sure to
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tune into the other shows on the DynaMic Podcast
Network this week, including Max Destruction,
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which pits your favorite action heroes from
film and television against each other. This
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week, hosts Scotty and Gilly are finding out
who would win in a fight between the MCU's
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Spider-Man and the DCEU's Blue Beetle. That's
right, they're doing a Marvel versus DC episode.
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Totally here for it. Can't wait to see Tom Holland's
Spider-Man wipe the floor with Trilla Mardi
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Doignes' Blue Beetle. Yeah, that's not gonna
happen. We've run that battle. I'm pretty confident
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I know who comes out on top. We ran the comic
book character battle, but who wins between
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the movie characters? I'm still pretty confident.
Well you're done. On the Senjoh World Podcast,
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host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between
fan favorite anime and manga characters. This
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Thursday, Zach is going to find out who'd win
between Blade from the Blade anime against
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Richter Belmont from the Castlevania anime.
On the Konsole Kombat podcast hosts John and
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Dean simulate battles between popular video
game characters. In yesterday's episode, they
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found out who would win between Princess Peach
and Princess Zelda. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com
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or click the link in our show notes to listen
to all the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network.
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But with that out of the way, quick to the No
Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to
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give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Dual
No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram
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for the person that we feel gave the best answer
to our question of the week. Last week we asked
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you guys, which actor has given the best performance
in a villain role for a Marvel or DC series?
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And we got four answers, so let's go over our
three honorable mentions as well as the no
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prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes
to Lee Tapscott, who said, Hi, this is Lee
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Tapscott about which actor performances was
the best villain. I think David Tennant as
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Kilgrave, aka Purple Man, in the Jessica Jones
series, you grew to hate him and he was perhaps
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the first villain we wanted to see the hero
actually kill. Yeah, I mean, this was one of
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the answers to beat, right? Kilgrave, aka the
Purple Man from the Jessica Jones television
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series, was played masterfully by David Tennant,
who is, you know, a pretty charismatic actor,
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but by God, was he easy to hate in the course
of that show. Yeah, I don't know if anyone
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else could have played that role besides David
Tennant, honestly. It probably would have ruined
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their career, just with all the horrible things
that the character did. Right. But when you
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have someone like David Tennant who really choose
the scenery with the role, he can kind of get
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by considering the subject matter. His influence
was so lasting in that show that it carried
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on within the subsequent seasons of Jessica
Jones. There were only three seasons of Jessica
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Jones, but his presence was still definitely
felt. Great answer, Lee. Our next honorable
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mention goes to Clive, who said. Hi, this is
Clive from Toronto. Without putting too much
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thought into it, the villain that comes to mind
is Deathstroke in the Arrow TV show, specifically
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in the earlier seasons. I just remember feeling
like the stakes were really high when this
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character was on screen. It really surprised
me when he killed a significant character on
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the show, no spoilers, but in that single action,
it showed me that this man was no joke. Yeah,
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Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke played by Manu
Bennett in the Arrow television series was
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a force to be reckoned with. The story arc of
getting to know the character in the flashbacks
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on the island with Oliver Queen to when he became
a full-fledged horror monster type villain
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in subsequent seasons where it seemed like no
character was safe from being killed by Deathstroke
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was just remarkable. You never knew when or
where he was going to appear and that was part
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of why the character was so scary. I've never
seen the Arrow television series, but I've
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always heard good things about the Deathstroke
character from that show. And there have been
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several live action iterations of Deathstroke.
Like we got him in Titan season two, as well
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as like the post credit scene in the Justice
League film. But yeah, Manu Burnett's portrayal
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is largely regarded as the best. Yeah, the Arrowverse
version is still the best. Great answer Clive.
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Our next honorable mention goes to Mike Williams,
who said, Hi guys, Mike Williams here. I picked
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Clancy Brown for Lex Luthor in the Justice League
Unlimited series and Oswald Patton for Modoc.
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Have a good day. Yeah, we didn't say specifically
that these had to be live action performances.
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So Mike Williams gave us two animated performances,
first with Clancy Brown as Lex Luthor and Patton
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Oswald as Modoc. Yeah, Clancy Brown to Lex Luthor
is what Kevin Conroy is to Batman. He's just
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the iconic voice for that role. It's hard to
hear anybody else when you read the lines in
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the comics. And Patton Oswalt played the character
of Modok so much better than how the character
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was portrayed in live action in the Ant-Man
and the Wasp quantumania film. To me, the Hulu-Modok
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stop-motion animation depiction of the character
is the quintessential version. Yeah, I've never
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seen if Patton Oswalt has ever said anything
about the MCU version of Modok, but you have
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to imagine he was pretty embarrassed when he
saw it. Like embarrassed for Kevin Feige and
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Marvel Studios. Yeah, they definitely didn't
have to go that route. If I had my way, the
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character never would have taken off his faceplate.
Because with the faceplate, it was actually
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a pretty cool design for live action. But yeah,
the Modok Hulu series was just fantastic. Great
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answer, Mike. But the winner of this week's
Snow Prize is Buster Barnes. Who said? Hi,
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guys, Buster Barnes here. And for my pick, I'm
going to go for a bit of an underrated shout,
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which is Cronden, who plays Tobias Wail in The
Black Lightning Show, a pretty underrated show
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and a very underrated villain. He was menacing,
imposing, intimidating for a guy who didn't
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really have any acting credits before this show.
I think he was a great villain and yeah, I
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think it's a really underrated performance.
See you guys. Love the show. Yeah. Crandon,
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I believe is a rapper. He's a musician by profession,
but honestly, I can't think of anyone better
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to play the role of Tobias Whale for the Black
Lightning series. I didn't watch the whole
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series, but the episodes I did watch, Cronden
made a fantastic kingpin-esque villain, just
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in terms of striking and imposing figure and
intimidation factor. Yeah, I never watched
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the Black Lightning television series, so I
only know of his version of Tobias Whale through
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the marketing of the show. And yeah, it looked
like it was a pretty good performance. I don't
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know too much about Tobias Whale in general.
I do remember that he was in the Suicide Squad,
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hell to pay. animated movie and he was pretty
imposing in that as well. But the reason that
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Buster Barnes' answer gets the no prize this
week is because Crandon also voiced the character
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of Tombstone in the Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
movie. So it was a pretty topical answer considering
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that in this episode we're pitting Tombstone
against Blockbuster. I thought it was interesting
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that Crandon is an albino African-American and
so is Tobias Whale and Tombstone. So he's kind
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of like the perfect guy to play and voice those
characters. So congrats to Buster Barnes. You
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win this week's No Prize. If you the listener
want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay
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tuned to later on in this episode when we'll
be asking another question of the week. But
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now that that's done, on to the news.
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So if you remember listening to our last episode,
I mentioned that my most anticipated series
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of this year is probably Sandman season 2. I
wasn't sure if we were going to get it, but
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it sounds like we are, and that this upcoming
season will in fact be the final season of
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the series. Which to me was heartbreaking, because
I know Sandman, the story written by Neil Gaiman,
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is a 10 volume series, so for it to end on season
2 felt very premature. and since it's one of
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my favorite series, I felt like they were just
making a huge mistake. Initially, I was under
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the assumption that the show's conclusion was
coming about because of several sexual misconduct
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accusations leveled at Neil Gaiman, and that
may very well be why they decided to announce
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at this time that the series is concluding,
but according to Variety, they were actually
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planning on ending with season 2 prior to these
allegations coming out. Yeah, the series of
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Sandman is like 10 volumes, but only so much
of that story actually deals directly with
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the character of Dream, right? Like a lot of
the story is somewhat anthological to my understanding.
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So the show producers released a statement saying
that since they're focusing really on the character
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of Dream, they're skipping over a lot of the
other stuff and are able to, I guess, tell
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his complete arc within this next season. Now
initially I was calling BS on that reasoning.
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I thought that was just a political way to say,
hey, we're going to end this series because
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of Neil Gaiman's alleged conduct. But according
to Variety, they were hearing from sources
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that the series was getting too pricey to continue.
So that's why they decided to focus solely
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on Dream Story, which, yeah, there's not as
much to Dream Story specifically in the series
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run as you would think for a series titled The
Sandman. So I could kind of buy that. I totally
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believe that it's an expensive show because
it does look amazing. All the special effects
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and the production value is pretty incredible.
Yeah, the show is very cinematic, very special
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effects heavy. I think season one was the most
expensive season of a show that Warner Brothers
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had ever produced in fact. So yeah, I guess
this should not be shocking. We did not get
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a release date for this season with this news,
although we do know it's coming out in 2025.
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We did however get a poster, which is pretty
bad ass all seven members of the Endless on
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it. Everyone from death to despair, delirium,
desire, destiny, and destruction. It's pretty
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awesome to see live-action versions of each
of these characters, and I can't wait to see
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them in the series itself. But with the announcement
that this is the final season of The Sandman,
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that brings us to our question of the week.
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What is a cancelled Marvel or DC television
series that you most wish would have gotten
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at least one other season? Record your answer
at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone
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our favorite answer and award that person a
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Dynamic Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram.
Be sure to answer before... February 8th.
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That does it for all the news for this episode,
so now let's move on to our main event, where
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we find out who would win in a battle between
the DC Villain Blockbuster and the Marvel Villain
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Tombstone.
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Okay, Blockbuster and Tombstone. These are two
broodish mobster villains. One is the primary
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villain you could say for Nightwing and Tombstone,
as I've recently learned, is a villain for
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characters like Daredevil and Spider-Man. So
it's kind of fitting because we actually pit
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the characters of Nightwing and Daredevil in
a duel prior to this and now it looks like
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their villains are facing off against each other.
Oh yeah, I didn't really think about that before
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but you're totally right. I don't know much
about the character of Blockbuster actually.
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I don't think I've read a single DC comic with
him as the villain. So I'm basically going
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into this from scratch. It'll be really interesting
to learn exactly who this character is before
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facing off against Tombstone. Basically Blockbuster
looks like they kind of just ripped off Tombstone,
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but instead of having like this fade haircut,
it's long hair. Yeah. In this episode, we're
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going to find out who would win in a battle
between a mullet and a flat top. But to explain
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the methodology behind our duels, let's go to
our sentient dual simulator, Alfred Jarvis
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9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about
determining a winner in our dual matchups.
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Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner
between the contestants is by running 1000
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Monte Carlo simulations using the characters
statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic
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model used to determine outcomes through random
sampling. In this case, I randomized the statistics
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along a normal distribution. as a way to simulate
the many variables that can occur during battle.
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The stat parameters are based on the official
Marvel power grid from which the DC characters
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statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat
categories are included such as range, damage
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potential, versatility and perception in order
to create a more detailed and accurate simulation.
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The results of the 1000 simulations provide
a percentage of wins for each character. The
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contestant with the higher percentage is declared
the victor. as they have a higher probability
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to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing,
neither character should win 100% of the matches.
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The comic book stories have shown that there's
even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so
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the confidence rate of my method falls in line
with the precedents that have been established
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in the source material. My mathematical simulations
are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are
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not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes
tabulated for determination of the winner.
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Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though,
we like to break down each character's histories
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and abilities before improvising a scenario
on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations
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would play out beat for beat. And I believe
it's my turn to go first with the Marvel characters
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backstory, so let me go ahead and tell you guys
all about Tombstone. Now Alonso Thompson Lincoln
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was born in Harlem in New York City, where his
journey into the criminal underworld began
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at an early age. As an African-American albino,
he stood out among his peers, becoming a target
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for bullying. Rather than shrink from adversity,
however, he turned it into his weapon, training
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his body into an intimidating size and using
his natural strength to extort his classmates.
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The only person who ever showed him any kindness
was Joseph Robbie Robertson, who would later
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grow to work for the Daily Bugle newspaper.
That kindness ended when Robertson, the editor
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of the school paper, attempted to publish an
expose on Lincoln's violent behavior. Feeling
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betrayed, Lincoln silenced Robbie through intimidation,
a moment that would set the stage for their
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lifelong enmity. Lincoln dropped out of school
and dove headfirst into a life of crime. His
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imposing stature and ruthless demeanor made
him a natural enforcer, and his reputation
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for brutality only grew. As he climbed the ranks
of organized crime, he sharpened his teeth
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into points. and trained as a hand-to-hand combatant,
specializing in strangulation. He soon earned
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the moniker Tombstone, both for his pale complexion
and the countless bodies he left in his wake.
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Tombstone's rise to power led him to Philadelphia,
where he crossed paths with Robbie Robertson
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once again. Now a journalist, Robertson witnessed
Tombstone murder a crime informant, but, paralyzed
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by fear, chose to remain silent for decades.
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working for the likes of Wilson Fisk, the Magia,
and Hammerhead. Despite numerous arrests, Lincoln
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always managed to evade conviction, often due
to witness intimidation or the sheer terror
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he instilled in those who might testify against
him. Years later, Robertson, haunted by his
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past inaction, decided to finally expose Tombstone.
His confession led to Tombstone's first major
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incarceration, but it also landed Robbie in
prison for withholding evidence. Tombstone
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arranged for his own transfer to the same prison,
where he terrorized Robertson until the intervention
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of a fellow inmate, Bruiser. When Bruiser attempted
to protect Robbie, Tombstone brutally murdered
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him. However, Robertson ultimately found the
courage to stand up to his tormentor. When
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they both escaped prison, he confronted Tombstone
in battle, battling him with a pitchfork and
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finally escaping his grip. Tombstone resurfaced
in New York, working under Hammerhead. and
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later attempting to assassinate Robertson himself.
However, a fateful accident at an Oscorp chemical
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plant changed him forever. Locked inside a chamber
with an experimental gas called DIOX-3, Tombstone's
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physiology mutated, giving him near invulnerable
skin, increased strength, and enhanced speed.
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While the process made him virtually indestructible,
it also gave him a terrifying stone-like complexion,
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cementing his legend as one of New York's deadliest
criminals. With his new abilities, Tombstone
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fought Spider-Man on multiple occasions, as
well as other street level heroes like Daredevil
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and Luke Cage. He even sought purpose with the
Hand, engaging in an assassination competition
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against Taskmaster, only to be thwarted by Daredevil
and the Punisher. You can learn more about
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Spider-Man in his duel against Blue Beetle,
Daredevil in his duel against Nightwing, Luke
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Cage in his duel against Thunder, Taskmaster
in his duel against Prometheus, and Punisher
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in his duel against Red Hood. Over the years,
Lincoln would continuously attempt to carve
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out his own empire. He was one of the many gang
leaders present during the downfall of the
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Kingpin attempting to claim a portion of Wilson
Fisk's empire. Tombstone also formed alliances
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with the Hood's criminal army, flashing with
Mr. Negative in a bid for power. However, he
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was repeatedly thwarted by Spider-Man and other
heroes, leading to multiple incarcerations.
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Tombstone's personal life remained complex.
He had a daughter, Janice Lincoln, whom he
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trained in crime and deception from an early
age. Although he hoped she would use her cunning
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for financial gain as a lawyer, she instead
chose to become the supervillain Beetle, much
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to his frustration. His relationship with Robbie
Robertson also took an unexpected turn when
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Janice began dating Robbie's son, Randy. This
forced the two lifelong enemies into an uneasy
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truce to avoid interfering in their children's
lives. Tombstone's reputation as an unbreakable
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enforcer was put to the test when he was shot
at his daughter's wedding, revealing that his
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bulletproof durability had diminished over time.
This attack ignited a gang war as Tombstone's
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rival saw his vulnerability as an opportunity
to seize his criminal empire. Despite his injuries,
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he remained active in the ongoing conflict,
working to reclaim lost territory and eliminate
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his challengers. His conflicts with Spider-Man
persisted as the wall-crawler frequently disrupted
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his operations. Tombstone was also targeted
by law enforcement, including detective Yuri
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Watanabe, the vigilante known as Wraith, who
sought justice after he critically injured
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one of her colleagues. Despite being temporarily
imprisoned, Tombstone leveraged his deep-rooted
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connections to manipulate the legal system and
escape. Powers-wise, Tombstone's body was physically
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enhanced through the DIOX-3 chemical, which
grants him enough strength to lift around 6
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tons, as well as give him increased durability
with Stoneheart skin and increased resistance
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to toxins. He's a skilled marksman with his
commonly used twin pistols, and he's a highly
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experienced street fighter. And that's Tombstone.
So was it never explained why all of a sudden
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he was able to be shot despite prior to that
having like rock hard skin? Yeah, that was
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during a time when his powers were temporarily
diminished. But traditionally, the character
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is known for having stone skin, and that's how
he'll be portrayed in this match. OK, convenient.
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Blockbuster doesn't normally carry guns. He's
a weapon unto himself essentially. Although
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you would think he would, it would make his
life a lot easier. Let me get into Blockbuster's
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history. Now Mark Desmond, a frail yet brilliant
chemist, devoted himself to developing a serum
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that would grant him immense physical power.
His experiments proved successful, drastically
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increasing his strength, durability, and size,
but at the cost of his intellect. The transformation
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left him barely capable of coherent speech,
however, turning him into a mindless brute.
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His older brother, Roland Desmond, who possessed
a criminal mind and ambitions of wealth and
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power, took advantage of Mark's new condition.
Shielding their mother from the truth about
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Mark's monstrous transformation, Roland manipulated
his brother into committing crimes on his behalf.
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Operating in Gotham City, It wasn't long before
the Desmond brothers caught the attention of
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Batman and Robin, who you can learn more about
in their duels against Moon Knight and Daredevil,
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respectively. Mark's rampages made him a formidable
opponent, but Batman discovered a way to pacify
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him. Years earlier, Bruce Wayne had rescued
Mark from drowning in quicksand. When Batman
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removed his cowl to reveal his face, the sight
of Bruce triggered a memory in Mark of the
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man who had once saved him. momentarily calming
the beast and preventing further destruction.
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After multiple encounters with Batman, Mark
was ultimately set to the Alfred Foundation
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for treatment, where scientists unsuccessfully
attempted to find a way to reverse his condition.
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Seeking solace, Mark began living a life of
isolation, though his mind was easily influenced.
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The Outsider, an enemy of Batman, manipulated
Mark into fighting the Dark Knight again, but
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Batman once more at- but Batman once more outwitted
his foe. After his defeat, Mark was transferred
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to Star Labs for further treatment. The scientists
there attempted to use radiation therapy to
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restore his original mind, but the experiment
failed, seemingly killing him. Mark was buried
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in Gotham Cemetery, though it was later revealed
that his death was a sham. Mark had been revived
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and left the city, eventually finding work in
a West Virginia mining town. He lived there
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in peace, until Batman tracked him down. Initially
enraged at the sight of Batman, Mark's aggression
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was neutralized when his fellow miners became
trapped in a cave-in. Working together, Batman
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and Mark rescued them, and Mark helped capture
the men responsible for the disaster. Recognizing
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that Mark had found a life where he could do
no harm, Batman allowed him to stay in the
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town rather than return him to Gotham. However,
Mark would later be recruited into Amanda Waller's
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suicide squad, and sent to fight the powerful
entity known as Brimstone. During the battle,
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Brimstone burned Mark alive, killing him. Following
Mark's death, his brother Roland Desvend, now
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suffering from a rare genetic disorder, sought
a cure for his deteriorating condition. Turning
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to experimental steroids similar to his brother's
serum, Roland transformed into the second Blockbuster,
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possessing immense strength. by suffering the
same intellectual deterioration as Mark. However,
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unlike his brother, Roland regained his intelligence
after striking a deal with the demon Neuron,
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who enhanced his mind in exchange for his soul.
With his newfound intellect and strength, Roland
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sought to carve out his own criminal empire.
He moved to Bluthaven, a city riddled with
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corruption, and systemically eliminated rival
crime bosses to establish himself as its undisputed
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ruler. His rise to power coincided with Nightwing's
arrival in the city, and the two clashed with
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Nightwing working to dismantle Roland's operations.
After years of conflict, Roland's body began
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to suffer from the strain of his immense bulk,
developing albinism and a heart condition as
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side effects of his treatments. Seeking a cure,
he traveled to Gorilla City, where he underwent
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a heart transplant to prolong his life. He launched
a personal vendetta against Nightwing, systematically
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targeting the people closest to him, orchestrating
attacks against Nightwing's allies and loved
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ones, and working to break him mentally and
emotionally. During their final confrontation,
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a new vigilante known as Tarantula intervened.
With Nightwing exhausted and psychologically
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shattered, she executed Blockbuster in front
of him. The police investigation into Roland's
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death was minimal, and his criminal empire quickly
crumbled in the wake of his murder. However,
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during the events of Blackest Night, Roland
was resurrected as a Black Lantern and returned
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to Gotham City alongside other undead villains.
He and other Black Lanterns were ultimately
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defeated, however, and his corpse returned to
rest. After the Flash created a Flashpoint
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event that reset DC's continuity, Mark Desmond
was reintroduced as a test subject for a mysterious
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doctor named Fane. Undergoing procedures meant
to enhance his intelligence, Mark was exposed
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to an overdose of a chemical compound that transformed
him into a hulking brew. Rampaging through
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Washington, D.C., he came into conflict with
Hawk and Dove before being subdued by Batman
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and Robin. You can learn more about Hawk and
Dove in our Hawk and Dove versus Northstar
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and Aurora episode. Later, Mark became a member
of the Secret Society, an organization of supervillains
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assembled by the Crime Syndicate. He was sent
to battle Lex Luthor's Injustice League during
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the crime syndicate's reign over Earth. Roland
Desmond also resurfaced, also taking on the
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mantle of Blockbuster, though his version maintained
his intelligence without requiring a deal with
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Neuron. He became the leader of Bloodhaven's
criminal underworld, positioning himself as
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Nightwing's primary adversary. After Dick Grayson
publicly revealed himself to be a billionaire
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and pledged to rebuild Bloodhaven, Roland saw
him as a threat to his control. He attempted
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to have Dick assassinated, but failed, as multiple
superheroes came to Dick's aid. When Blockbuster
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sought to personally kill Dick, he attacked
the Haven Community Center, leading to a climactic
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battle with Nightwing. During the fight, Roland
knocked off Nightwing's mask and discovered
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his secret identity. Despite this revelation,
Nightwing defeated Roland in combat. His grip
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over Blewd Haven soon collapsed, and his own
henchmen turned against him when they learned
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of Blockbuster's corrupt dealings with the private
prison. Fleeing into the city's back alleys,
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Blockbuster encountered the villain Heartless,
who had been targeting powerful individuals
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in Bloodhaven. Heartless killed Roland, taking
his heart as a trophy, and unknowingly ensuring
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that the seeker of Nightwing's identity died
with him. Now powers-wise, both versions of
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Blockbuster possess immense superhuman strength,
durability, and stamina. capable of lifting
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several tons. Blockbuster is also a formidable
hand-to-hand combatant, and the Roland version,
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which is the version I'm going with, is a criminal
mastermind. That's Blockbuster. Okay, so I
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mentioned earlier that I wasn't really too familiar
with the character of Blockbuster, having never
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read any stories with him, and after that bio,
I'm kinda glad, because that was boring. Okay,
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same with Tombstone, like who gives a shit?
Tombstone at least looks cool. Okay, Blockbuster
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is not a character that looks cool. Spoken like
someone incapable of rocking a mullet. That's
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exactly what a jealous non-mullet person would
say. Fair enough.
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every Thursday. Join us as we speculate on
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the matches and armed with the power of mathematical
simulations, discover who will emerge victorious.
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Now that we've got their histories and abilities
out of the way, let's speculate on how one
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of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner
is determined by simulations, not this speculation,
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but it's fun to imagine how the fight could
play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation?
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Well, I should say there are no rules, other
than the characters have no prior knowledge
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of the other going into the fight. All they
are aware of starting out is that the other
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character is a threat that needs to be eliminated.
For the speculation... The contestants will
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begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript
environment that will have no bearing on the
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match itself, as no environmental statistics
are considered in my simulations. The contestants
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must earn victory on their own merit. Alright
then let's get into it! Blockbuster and Tombstone
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meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'm
gonna say Tombstone goes first because he has
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guns. So with this like creepy ass smile, he's
gonna brandish his two pistols. like spinning
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them up and pointing them right at Blockbuster
before smoking that fool like it ain't no thing.
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I mean, that's like firing handguns at a charging
rhino, though, because once Blockbuster sees
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Tombstone brandish those guns, he's going to
know that he needs to close the gap between
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them. And he probably figures that his imposing
size would probably make him like physically
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superior to Tombstone. So Blockbuster, he's
going to rush Tombstone and get tagged a few
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times. with bullets, sure, but it's nothing
serious enough to stop him from grabbing Tombstone's
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guns and just hurling them towards the horizon.
But wait, what makes you think Tombstone's
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guns are that easy to grab? Like, Tombstone's
known for his unbreakable grip, right? So like,
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Blockbuster tries to snatch Tombstone's guns
from his hands, but Tombstone's gonna use that
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moment to straight up kick Blockbuster right
in his Nard sack. And when Blockbuster drops
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to his knees in front of him because of the
pain... Tombstone is just gonna pistol whip
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him right across the face. No dude, Blockbuster,
he has balls of steel. So he just no sells
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that cheap nut shot. And while he's grabbing
Tombstone's guns, he's gonna crush the metal
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barrels in his hands. Just rendering them useless.
Before headbutting Tombstone right in the face,
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knocking him backward. Headbutting Tombstone
is like the last thing you want to do. Because
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one... Tombstone's head is as durable as a stone,
so it's gonna be like headbutting a rock. And
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two, Tombstone has sharp ass teeth, so as Blockbuster's
like reeling from giving himself a concussion,
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Tombstone's gonna bite one of Blockbuster's
eyes just straight out of his head, and then
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he's gonna spit it out, just grinning real creepy
like a shark. Ah! Ah, damn. Well, Blockbuster,
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he's pissed. And that's when he's gonna grab
Tombstone by the legs and just start ragdolling
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him, slamming him into the ground repeatedly,
like what the Hulk did to Loki in Avengers.
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Right, but again, Tombstone's rock hard, so
this doesn't faze him too much. Yeah, dude.
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I don't wanna know that. His skin is as hard
as a rock, is what I'm saying. So, you know,
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he's durable enough to handle this attack without
being too hurt, and he's just gonna reach into
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one of his boots. and pull out a switchblade
that he uses to reach up and shank Blockbuster
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right in the gut with. And that's when Blockbuster's
just gonna yeet Tombstone, like, tossing him
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like half a block away. And he's gonna pull
out the knife, which, thanks for the weapon,
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and he's gonna charge Tombstone and just slam
right into him knife first. Right. Okay, but
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the knife is gonna break. Blockbuster is not
a smart villain. Your mom's not a smart villain.
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And that's when Tombstone knees Blockbuster
in the gut, you know, making him bend forward,
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and then Tombstone's gonna drop his elbow onto
his head, and Blockbuster's gonna fall to the
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ground. And for his finishing move, Tombstone's
gonna curb stomp the guy, like not in the figurative
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sense, but in the very literal sense, Tombstone's
gonna curb stomp Blockbuster, cave his face
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in, and Tombstone wins the match. No, because
when Blockbuster is on the ground and he sees
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that he's about to get his head kicked in, he's
going to quickly sweep Tombstone's leg out
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from under him, and when he hits the ground,
Blockbuster is just going to shove his fingers
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right through Tombstone's eyes, through his
skull, into his brain, killing him, because
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I'm guessing his eyeballs aren't rock hard.
Actually, that's, yeah, you would be correct
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in that assumption. But like, Blockbuster is
missing an eye, so he's going an eye for an
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eye here. but Ni for Ni leaves the whole world
blind. Yeah, Blockbuster probably does not
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give two shits about Gandhi. But we'll go ahead
and leave the match there. Either Tombstone
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curb stomps Blockbuster or Blockbuster jams
his fingers into Tombstone's brain through
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his eyes. Two violent mobster characters, two
violent ways to end this match. But let's see
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which one happens by running the stats. AJ9K,
hit it! Inputting data, running calculations,
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processing results. Simulations complete. Yeah,
that was pretty gruesome for sure. I figured
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this would be pretty visceral because these
characters are pretty straightforward. You
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know, they're brawlers. Yeah, they're not going
to hold back either. The stats were pretty
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interesting. Blockbuster is faster than Tombstone,
even though Tombstone is pretty quick. Blockbuster,
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like you said, is like a rhino and can run really
fast. Blockbuster is also smarter than Tombstone.
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Yeah, at least the version I went with is...
The Mark version is super not smart, but the
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Roland version actually is very much so. We
did, however, give the edge to Tombstone in
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regards to durability, saying he's slightly
more durable than Blockbuster, but also in
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regards to versatility, which actually wasn't
too surprising to me, considering Tombstone
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will bring weapons into fights. Yeah. And he
also has his sharp teeth, which he used to
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like bite things off. Right. He's a biter. Right.
But also because of his weapons. we gave the
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range edge to Tombstone as well. Yeah, otherwise,
these characters were pretty much identical.
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You know, they had the same evasiveness. We
said they're about the same strength level
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and had about the same fighting skill. So with
all that said, Jonathan, who do you think is
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winning this match? I'm hoping it's Blockbuster,
although Instagram does not agree with me for
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the first time in a long time. The Marvel character
is actually coming out ahead with Tombstone
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currently sitting at 51 percent. of the vote.
Well, I'm glad to see that our Marvel Instagram
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fans are starting to show up for these polls,
but that's still a little close guys. Like
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we really want to be dominating these polls.
So if you're a Marvel fan, be sure to follow
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us on Instagram and then vote whenever Jonathan
gets these polls up, you know, at the very
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last minute on Sundays when we record. Okay,
that's fair. But let's get the final results
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of the match. AJ 9K, the results please. Hey,
you are, sir. Okay, the winner of the duel.
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between Blockbuster and Tombstone is... Tombstone!
Gosh dang it! It wasn't a total wipeout, I
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think the match was fairly close. Out of 1000
simulated battles, Tombstone won 592, whereas
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Blockbuster won 408. In the end, the determining
factors largely were range and durability considering
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Tombstone is rock hard. Ugh! What I just I'm
just gonna keep saying that now I don't like
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it And I don't like the results of this match
either. I gotta say well you could blame Miggy
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for that one. I think yeah, Miggy What are you
doing? You're a DC fan. Come on. I'll say that
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thematically It was a good pitch for a dual
matchup But yeah, the Marvel fans on the discord
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should all thank Miggy for his contribution
to Marvel's win rate this week Miggy just stay
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off discord for a week just stay off of it But
that does it for this duel, AJ9K help close
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this out. Thanks for listening to Dynamic Dual.
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other shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network,
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Konsole Kombat. Our next episode is going to
be another duel episode in lead up to the Captain
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America Brave New World review that we'll be
doing in a few weeks. We're going to find out
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who would win in a fight between Red Hulk and
General Wade Eiling, also known as the General.
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But that does it for this episode. We want to
give a big thanks to our executive producers,
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Ken Johnson. John Swarovski, Zachary Hepburn,
Dustin Balcom, Miggy Mathen-Geehan, Brandon
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Estregard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yaiten, Austin
Wieselowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, Gil
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Camacho, Adam Spees, Dean Molesky, Devin Davis,
Joseph Kirstein, Josh Leiner, Mike Williams,
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and Oscar Galvez for helping to make this podcast
possible. We'll talk to you guys next week.
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Up, up, and away, true believers. Hold the phone.
I thought this was going to be a fight between
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a video store and frozen pizza. I want my money
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