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Feb. 4, 2025

Blockbuster vs Tombstone

Blockbuster vs Tombstone

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• 0:00:00 - Introduction 
• 0:04:10 - No-Prize Time 
• 0:10:19 - The Sandman series ending with Season 2 
• 0:13:04 - Question of...

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Dynamic Duel: DC vs Marvel Podcast

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0:00:00 - Introduction 
0:04:10 - No-Prize Time 
0:10:19 - The Sandman series ending with Season 2 
0:13:04 - Question of the Week 
0:13:41 - Blockbuster vs Tombstone intro 
0:16:49 - Tombstone history and abilities 
0:22:51 - Blockbuster history and abilities 
0:30:37 - Fight speculation 
0:36:28 - Duel results 
0:39:33 - Sign off 
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Transcript

00:00
This is a DynaMic Network podcast.

00:25
Welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations. I'm Johnny DC. And I'm his twin brother, Marvelous Joe. And in this episode, we are doing a duel between the characters of Blockbuster and Tombstone. And I know what you're thinking, but you're wrong. This is not, in fact, a battle.

00:51
between a 90s era video store and a frozen pizza company, it is comic book characters. Obscure ones, but comic book characters nonetheless. I don't think Tombstone is that obscure. He's a pretty prominent Spider-Man and Daredevil villain. I mean, he was in the, into the Spider-Verse movie. I totally blocked that. Blockbuster actually has been in a few animated works before, so maybe he's not that obscure either. That said, when I Google Blockbuster, the first thing that comes up is not the DC character.

01:21
Same thing with Tombstone, so fair enough. Now this duel was specifically requested by our executive producer, Miggy Mathagean. We'll break down the characters' histories and abilities and run a thousand simulations to find out who would actually win. Before that, we're gonna break down the comic book movie news from the past week, of which there was just one news item, and that was that the Sandman series for Netflix is ending with season two.

01:44
Yeah, the day this episode drops, we're supposed to get the first teaser trailer for the Fantastic Four first steps movie that's coming out later this summer, but, you know, that's just our luck. So next week we'll be talking about the teaser, but as always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Guys, our artificially intelligent Duel simulator AJ9K has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up.

02:10
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02:30
The Diner Mike podcast network tier lets you create your own podcast using this Monte Carlo simulator. Johnny and Joe will help you develop your show, provide graphic support and consultation, and get you simulation results. Pitch the twins your ideas via email at dynamicduelpodcast at gmail.com. Check it out at patreon.com slash dynamicduel. Pip pip cheerio. Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone who supports the podcast.

02:56
Guys, be sure to tune into the other shows on the DynaMic Podcast Network this week, including Max Destruction, which pits your favorite action heroes from film and television against each other. This week, hosts Scotty and Gilly are finding out who would win in a fight between the MCU's Spider-Man and the DCEU's Blue Beetle. That's right, they're doing a Marvel versus DC episode. Totally here for it. Can't wait to see Tom Holland's Spider-Man wipe the floor with Trilla Mardi Doignes' Blue Beetle. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. We've run that battle.

03:26
I'm pretty confident I know who comes out on top. We ran the comic book character battle, but who wins between the movie characters? I'm still pretty confident. Well you're done. On the Senjoh World Podcast, host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fan favorite anime and manga characters. This Thursday, Zach is going to find out who'd win between Blade from the Blade anime against Richter Belmont from the Castlevania anime.

03:50
On the Konsole Kombat podcast hosts John and Dean simulate battles between popular video game characters. In yesterday's episode, they found out who would win between Princess Peach and Princess Zelda. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen to all the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Duel No Prize,

04:18
is a digital award we post on Instagram for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week we asked you guys, which actor has given the best performance in a villain role for a Marvel or DC series? And we got four answers, so let's go over our three honorable mentions as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Lee Tapscott, who said, Hi, this is Lee Tapscott about which actor performances was the best villain.

04:48
I think David Tennant as Kilgrave, aka Purple Man, in the Jessica Jones series, you grew to hate him and he was perhaps the first villain we wanted to see the hero actually kill. Yeah, I mean, this was one of the answers to beat, right? Kilgrave, aka the Purple Man from the Jessica Jones television series, was played masterfully by David Tennant, who is, you know, a pretty charismatic actor, but by God, was he easy to hate in the course of that show.

05:17
Yeah, I don't know if anyone else could have played that role besides David Tennant, honestly. It probably would have ruined their career, just with all the horrible things that the character did. Right. But when you have someone like David Tennant who really choose the scenery with the role, he can kind of get by considering the subject matter. His influence was so lasting in that show that it carried on within the subsequent seasons of Jessica Jones. There were only three seasons of Jessica Jones, but his presence was still definitely felt.

05:44
Great answer, Lee. Our next honorable mention goes to Clive, who said. Hi, this is Clive from Toronto. Without putting too much thought into it, the villain that comes to mind is Deathstroke in the Arrow TV show, specifically in the earlier seasons. I just remember feeling like the stakes were really high when this character was on screen. It really surprised me when he killed a significant character on the show, no spoilers, but in that single action, it showed me that this man was no joke.

06:14
Yeah, Slade Wilson aka Deathstroke played by Manu Bennett in the Arrow television series was a force to be reckoned with. The story arc of getting to know the character in the flashbacks on the island with Oliver Queen to when he became a full-fledged horror monster type villain in subsequent seasons where it seemed like no character was safe from being killed by Deathstroke was just remarkable. You never knew when or where he was going to appear and that was part of why the character was so scary.

06:43
I've never seen the Arrow television series, but I've always heard good things about the Deathstroke character from that show. And there have been several live action iterations of Deathstroke. Like we got him in Titan season two, as well as like the post credit scene in the Justice League film. But yeah, Manu Burnett's portrayal is largely regarded as the best. Yeah, the Arrowverse version is still the best. Great answer Clive. Our next honorable mention goes to Mike Williams, who said, Hi guys, Mike Williams here.

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I picked Clancy Brown for Lex Luthor in the Justice League Unlimited series and Oswald Patton for Modoc. Have a good day. Yeah, we didn't say specifically that these had to be live action performances. So Mike Williams gave us two animated performances, first with Clancy Brown as Lex Luthor and Patton Oswald as Modoc. Yeah, Clancy Brown to Lex Luthor is what Kevin Conroy is to Batman.

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He's just the iconic voice for that role. It's hard to hear anybody else when you read the lines in the comics. And Patton Oswalt played the character of Modok so much better than how the character was portrayed in live action in the Ant-Man and the Wasp quantumania film. To me, the Hulu-Modok stop-motion animation depiction of the character is the quintessential version. Yeah, I've never seen if Patton Oswalt has ever said anything about the MCU version of Modok, but you have to imagine he was pretty embarrassed when he saw it.

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Like embarrassed for Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios. Yeah, they definitely didn't have to go that route. If I had my way, the character never would have taken off his faceplate. Because with the faceplate, it was actually a pretty cool design for live action. But yeah, the Modok Hulu series was just fantastic. Great answer, Mike. But the winner of this week's Snow Prize is Buster Barnes. Who said? Hi, guys, Buster Barnes here. And for my pick, I'm going to go for a bit of an underrated shout, which is Cronden, who plays Tobias Wail in

08:38
The Black Lightning Show, a pretty underrated show and a very underrated villain. He was menacing, imposing, intimidating for a guy who didn't really have any acting credits before this show. I think he was a great villain and yeah, I think it's a really underrated performance. See you guys. Love the show. Yeah. Crandon, I believe is a rapper. He's a musician by profession, but honestly, I can't think of anyone better to play the role of Tobias Whale for the Black Lightning series.

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I didn't watch the whole series, but the episodes I did watch, Cronden made a fantastic kingpin-esque villain, just in terms of striking and imposing figure and intimidation factor. Yeah, I never watched the Black Lightning television series, so I only know of his version of Tobias Whale through the marketing of the show. And yeah, it looked like it was a pretty good performance. I don't know too much about Tobias Whale in general. I do remember that he was in the Suicide Squad, hell to pay.

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animated movie and he was pretty imposing in that as well. But the reason that Buster Barnes' answer gets the no prize this week is because Crandon also voiced the character of Tombstone in the Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse movie. So it was a pretty topical answer considering that in this episode we're pitting Tombstone against Blockbuster. I thought it was interesting that Crandon is an albino African-American and so is Tobias Whale and Tombstone.

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So he's kind of like the perfect guy to play and voice those characters. So congrats to Buster Barnes. You win this week's No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned to later on in this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. But now that that's done, on to the news.

10:25
So if you remember listening to our last episode, I mentioned that my most anticipated series of this year is probably Sandman season 2. I wasn't sure if we were going to get it, but it sounds like we are, and that this upcoming season will in fact be the final season of the series. Which to me was heartbreaking, because I know Sandman, the story written by Neil Gaiman, is a 10 volume series, so for it to end on season 2 felt very very premature.

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and since it's one of my favorite series, I felt like they were just making a huge mistake. Initially, I was under the assumption that the show's conclusion was coming about because of several sexual misconduct accusations leveled at Neil Gaiman, and that may very well be why they decided to announce at this time that the series is concluding, but according to Variety, they were actually planning on ending with season 2 prior to these allegations coming out.

11:23
Yeah, the series of Sandman is like 10 volumes, but only so much of that story actually deals directly with the character of Dream, right? Like a lot of the story is somewhat anthological to my understanding. So the show producers released a statement saying that since they're focusing really on the character of Dream, they're skipping over a lot of the other stuff and are able to, I guess, tell his complete arc within this next season.

11:47
Now initially I was calling BS on that reasoning. I thought that was just a political way to say, hey, we're going to end this series because of Neil Gaiman's alleged conduct. But according to Variety, they were hearing from sources that the series was getting too pricey to continue. So that's why they decided to focus solely on Dream Story, which, yeah, there's not as much to Dream Story specifically in the series run as you would think for a series titled The Sandman.

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So I could kind of buy that. I totally believe that it's an expensive show because it does look amazing. All the special effects and the production value is pretty incredible. Yeah, the show is very cinematic, very special effects heavy. I think season one was the most expensive season of a show that Warner Brothers had ever produced in fact. So yeah, I guess this should not be shocking. We did not get a release date for this season with this news, although we do know it's coming out in 2025. We did however get a poster, which is pretty bad ass

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all seven members of the Endless on it. Everyone from death to despair, delirium, desire, destiny, and destruction. It's pretty awesome to see live-action versions of each of these characters, and I can't wait to see them in the series itself. But with the announcement that this is the final season of The Sandman, that brings us to our question of the week.

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What is a cancelled Marvel or DC television series that you most wish would have gotten at least one other season? Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer before...

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February 8th.

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That does it for all the news for this episode, so now let's move on to our main event, where we find out who would win in a battle between the DC Villain Blockbuster and the Marvel Villain Tombstone.

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Okay, Blockbuster and Tombstone. These are two broodish mobster villains. One is the primary villain you could say for Nightwing and Tombstone, as I've recently learned, is a villain for characters like Daredevil and Spider-Man. So it's kind of fitting because we actually pit the characters of Nightwing and Daredevil in a duel prior to this and now it looks like their villains are facing off against each other. Oh yeah, I didn't really think about that before but you're totally right.

14:44
I don't know much about the character of Blockbuster actually. I don't think I've read a single DC comic with him as the villain. So I'm basically going into this from scratch. It'll be really interesting to learn exactly who this character is before facing off against Tombstone. Basically Blockbuster looks like they kind of just ripped off Tombstone, but instead of having like this fade haircut, it's long hair. Yeah. In this episode, we're going to find out who would win in a battle between a mullet and a flat top.

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But to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient Duel simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our Duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I randomized the statistics along a normal distribution.

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as a way to simulate the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official Marvel power grid from which the DC characters statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat categories are included such as range, damage potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character. The contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor.

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as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner.

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Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though, we like to break down each character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out beat for beat. And I believe it's my turn to go first with the Marvel characters backstory, so let me go ahead and tell you guys all about Tombstone. Now Alonso Thompson Lincoln was born in Harlem in New York City, where his journey into the criminal underworld began at an early age.

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As an African-American albino, he stood out among his peers, becoming a target for bullying. Rather than shrink from adversity, however, he turned it into his weapon, training his body into an intimidating size and using his natural strength to extort his classmates. The only person who ever showed him any kindness was Joseph Robbie Robertson, who would later grow to work for the Daily Bugle newspaper. That kindness ended when Robertson, the editor of the school paper,

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attempted to publish an expose on Lincoln's violent behavior. Feeling betrayed, Lincoln silenced Robbie through intimidation, a moment that would set the stage for their lifelong enmity. Lincoln dropped out of school and dove headfirst into a life of crime. His imposing stature and ruthless demeanor made him a natural enforcer, and his reputation for brutality only grew. As he climbed the ranks of organized crime, he sharpened his teeth into points.

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and trained as a hand-to-hand combatant, specializing in strangulation. He soon earned the moniker Tombstone, both for his pale complexion and the countless bodies he left in his wake. Tombstone's rise to power led him to Philadelphia, where he crossed paths with Robbie Robertson once again. Now a journalist, Robertson witnessed Tombstone murder a crime informant, but, paralyzed by fear, chose to remain silent for decades.

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working for the likes of Wilson Fisk, the Magia, and Hammerhead. Despite numerous arrests, Lincoln always managed to evade conviction, often due to witness intimidation or the sheer terror he instilled in those who might testify against him. Years later, Robertson, haunted by his past inaction, decided to finally expose Tombstone. His confession led to Tombstone's first major incarceration, but it also landed Robbie in prison for withholding evidence.

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Tombstone arranged for his own transfer to the same prison, where he terrorized Robertson until the intervention of a fellow inmate, Bruiser. When Bruiser attempted to protect Robbie, Tombstone brutally murdered him. However, Robertson ultimately found the courage to stand up to his tormentor. When they both escaped prison, he confronted Tombstone in battle, battling him with a pitchfork and finally escaping his grip. Tombstone resurfaced in New York, working under Hammerhead.

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and later attempting to assassinate Robertson himself. However, a fateful accident at an Oscorp chemical plant changed him forever. Locked inside a chamber with an experimental gas called DIOX-3, Tombstone's physiology mutated, giving him near invulnerable skin, increased strength, and enhanced speed. While the process made him virtually indestructible, it also gave him a terrifying stone-like complexion, cementing his legend as one of New York's deadliest criminals.

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With his new abilities, Tombstone fought Spider-Man on multiple occasions, as well as other street level heroes like Daredevil and Luke Cage. He even sought purpose with the Hand, engaging in an assassination competition against Taskmaster, only to be thwarted by Daredevil and the Punisher. You can learn more about Spider-Man in his duel against Blue Beetle, Daredevil in his duel against Nightwing, Luke Cage in his duel against Thunder, Taskmaster in his duel against Prometheus, and Punisher in his duel against Red Hood. Over the years,

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Lincoln would continuously attempt to carve out his own empire. He was one of the many gang leaders present during the downfall of the Kingpin attempting to claim a portion of Wilson Fisk's empire. Tombstone also formed alliances with the Hood's criminal army, flashing with Mr. Negative in a bid for power. However, he was repeatedly thwarted by Spider-Man and other heroes, leading to multiple incarcerations. Tombstone's personal life remained complex.

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He had a daughter, Janice Lincoln, whom he trained in crime and deception from an early age. Although he hoped she would use her cunning for financial gain as a lawyer, she instead chose to become the supervillain Beetle, much to his frustration. His relationship with Robbie Robertson also took an unexpected turn when Janice began dating Robbie's son, Randy. This forced the two lifelong enemies into an uneasy truce to avoid interfering in their children's lives.

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Tombstone's reputation as an unbreakable enforcer was put to the test when he was shot at his daughter's wedding, revealing that his bulletproof durability had diminished over time. This attack ignited a gang war as Tombstone's rival saw his vulnerability as an opportunity to seize his criminal empire. Despite his injuries, he remained active in the ongoing conflict, working to reclaim lost territory and eliminate his challengers. His conflicts with Spider-Man persisted as the wall-crawler frequently disrupted his operations.

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Tombstone was also targeted by law enforcement, including detective Yuri Watanabe, the vigilante known as Wraith, who sought justice after he critically injured one of her colleagues. Despite being temporarily imprisoned, Tombstone leveraged his deep-rooted connections to manipulate the legal system and escape. Powers-wise, Tombstone's body was physically enhanced through the DIOX-3 chemical, which grants him enough strength to lift around 6 tons, as well as give him increased durability with Stoneheart skin and increased resistance to toxins.

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He's a skilled marksman with his commonly used twin pistols, and he's a highly experienced street fighter. And that's Tombstone. So was it never explained why all of a sudden he was able to be shot despite prior to that having like rock hard skin? Yeah, that was during a time when his powers were temporarily diminished. But traditionally, the character is known for having stone skin, and that's how he'll be portrayed in this match. OK, convenient.

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Blockbuster doesn't normally carry guns. He's a weapon unto himself essentially. Although you would think he would, it would make his life a lot easier. Let me get into Blockbuster's history. Now Mark Desmond, a frail yet brilliant chemist, devoted himself to developing a serum that would grant him immense physical power. His experiments proved successful, drastically increasing his strength, durability, and size, but at the cost of his intellect.

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The transformation left him barely capable of coherent speech, however, turning him into a mindless brute. His older brother, Roland Desmond, who possessed a criminal mind and ambitions of wealth and power, took advantage of Mark's new condition. Shielding their mother from the truth about Mark's monstrous transformation, Roland manipulated his brother into committing crimes on his behalf. Operating in Gotham City,

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It wasn't long before the Desmond brothers caught the attention of Batman and Robin, who you can learn more about in their duels against Moon Knight and Daredevil, respectively. Mark's rampages made him a formidable opponent, but Batman discovered a way to pacify him. Years earlier, Bruce Wayne had rescued Mark from drowning in quicksand. When Batman removed his cowl to reveal his face, the sight of Bruce triggered a memory in Mark of the man who had once saved him.

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momentarily calming the beast and preventing further destruction. After multiple encounters with Batman, Mark was ultimately set to the Alfred Foundation for treatment, where scientists unsuccessfully attempted to find a way to reverse his condition. Seeking solace, Mark began living a life of isolation, though his mind was easily influenced. The Outsider, an enemy of Batman, manipulated Mark into fighting the Dark Knight again, but Batman once more at-

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but Batman once more outwitted his foe. After his defeat, Mark was transferred to Star Labs for further treatment. The scientists there attempted to use radiation therapy to restore his original mind, but the experiment failed, seemingly killing him. Mark was buried in Gotham Cemetery, though it was later revealed that his death was a sham. Mark had been revived and left the city, eventually finding work in a West Virginia mining town. He lived there in peace,

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until Batman tracked him down. Initially enraged at the sight of Batman, Mark's aggression was neutralized when his fellow miners became trapped in a cave-in. Working together, Batman and Mark rescued them, and Mark helped capture the men responsible for the disaster. Recognizing that Mark had found a life where he could do no harm, Batman allowed him to stay in the town rather than return him to Gotham. However, Mark would later be recruited into Amanda Waller's suicide squad,

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and sent to fight the powerful entity known as Brimstone. During the battle, Brimstone burned Mark alive, killing him. Following Mark's death, his brother Roland Desvend, now suffering from a rare genetic disorder, sought a cure for his deteriorating condition. Turning to experimental steroids similar to his brother's serum, Roland transformed into the second Blockbuster, possessing immense strength.

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by suffering the same intellectual deterioration as Mark. However, unlike his brother, Roland regained his intelligence after striking a deal with the demon Neuron, who enhanced his mind in exchange for his soul. With his newfound intellect and strength, Roland sought to carve out his own criminal empire. He moved to Bluthaven, a city riddled with corruption, and systemically eliminated rival crime bosses to establish himself as its undisputed ruler.

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His rise to power coincided with Nightwing's arrival in the city, and the two clashed with Nightwing working to dismantle Roland's operations. After years of conflict, Roland's body began to suffer from the strain of his immense bulk, developing albinism and a heart condition as side effects of his treatments. Seeking a cure, he traveled to Gorilla City, where he underwent a heart transplant to prolong his life.

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He launched a personal vendetta against Nightwing, systematically targeting the people closest to him, orchestrating attacks against Nightwing's allies and loved ones, and working to break him mentally and emotionally. During their final confrontation, a new vigilante known as Tarantula intervened. With Nightwing exhausted and psychologically shattered, she executed Blockbuster in front of him. The police investigation into Roland's death was minimal,

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and his criminal empire quickly crumbled in the wake of his murder. However, during the events of Blackest Night, Roland was resurrected as a Black Lantern and returned to Gotham City alongside other undead villains. He and other Black Lanterns were ultimately defeated, however, and his corpse returned to rest. After the Flash created a Flashpoint event that reset DC's continuity, Mark Desmond was reintroduced as a test subject for a mysterious doctor named Fane.

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Undergoing procedures meant to enhance his intelligence, Mark was exposed to an overdose of a chemical compound that transformed him into a hulking brew. Rampaging through Washington, D.C., he came into conflict with Hawk and Dove before being subdued by Batman and Robin. You can learn more about Hawk and Dove in our Hawk and Dove versus Northstar and Aurora episode. Later, Mark became a member of the Secret Society, an organization of supervillains assembled by the Crime Syndicate.

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He was sent to battle Lex Luthor's Injustice League during the crime syndicate's reign over Earth. Roland Desmond also resurfaced, also taking on the mantle of Blockbuster, though his version maintained his intelligence without requiring a deal with Neuron. He became the leader of Bloodhaven's criminal underworld, positioning himself as Nightwing's primary adversary. After Dick Grayson publicly revealed himself to be a billionaire and pledged to rebuild Bloodhaven,

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Roland saw him as a threat to his control. He attempted to have Dick assassinated, but failed, as multiple superheroes came to Dick's aid. When Blockbuster sought to personally kill Dick, he attacked the Haven Community Center, leading to a climactic battle with Nightwing. During the fight, Roland knocked off Nightwing's mask and discovered his secret identity. Despite this revelation, Nightwing defeated Roland in combat. His grip over Blewd Haven soon collapsed,

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and his own henchmen turned against him when they learned of Blockbuster's corrupt dealings with the private prison. Fleeing into the city's back alleys, Blockbuster encountered the villain Heartless, who had been targeting powerful indiviDuels in Bloodhaven. Heartless killed Roland, taking his heart as a trophy, and unknowingly ensuring that the seeker of Nightwing's identity died with him. Now powers-wise, both versions of Blockbuster possess immense superhuman strength, durability, and stamina.

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capable of lifting several tons. Blockbuster is also a formidable hand-to-hand combatant, and the Roland version, which is the version I'm going with, is a criminal mastermind. That's Blockbuster. Okay, so I mentioned earlier that I wasn't really too familiar with the character of Blockbuster, having never read any stories with him, and after that bio, I'm kinda glad, because that was boring. Okay, same with Tombstone, like who gives a shit? Tombstone at least looks cool.

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Okay, Blockbuster is not a character that looks cool. Spoken like someone incapable of rocking a mullet. That's exactly what a jealous non-mullet person would say. Fair enough.

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Now that we've got their histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not this speculation, but it's fun to imagine how the fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation? Well, I should say there are no rules, other than the characters have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation...

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The contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript environment that will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then let's get into it! Blockbuster and Tombstone meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'm gonna say Tombstone goes first because he has guns. So with this like creepy ass smile, he's gonna brandish his two pistols.

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like spinning them up and pointing them right at Blockbuster before smoking that fool like it ain't no thing. I mean, that's like firing handguns at a charging rhino, though, because once Blockbuster sees Tombstone brandish those guns, he's going to know that he needs to close the gap between them. And he probably figures that his imposing size would probably make him like physically superior to Tombstone. So Blockbuster, he's going to rush Tombstone and get tagged a few times.

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with bullets, sure, but it's nothing serious enough to stop him from grabbing Tombstone's guns and just hurling them towards the horizon. But wait, what makes you think Tombstone's guns are that easy to grab? Like, Tombstone's known for his unbreakable grip, right? So like, Blockbuster tries to snatch Tombstone's guns from his hands, but Tombstone's gonna use that moment to straight up kick Blockbuster right in his Nard sack. And when Blockbuster drops to his knees in front of him because of the pain...

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Tombstone is just gonna pistol whip him right across the face. No dude, Blockbuster, he has balls of steel. So he just no sells that cheap nut shot. And while he's grabbing Tombstone's guns, he's gonna crush the metal barrels in his hands. Just rendering them useless. Before headbutting Tombstone right in the face, knocking him backward. Headbutting Tombstone is like the last thing you want to do. Because one...

33:56
Tombstone's head is as durable as a stone, so it's gonna be like headbutting a rock. And two, Tombstone has sharp ass teeth, so as Blockbuster's like reeling from giving himself a concussion, Tombstone's gonna bite one of Blockbuster's eyes just straight out of his head, and then he's gonna spit it out, just grinning real creepy like a shark. Ah! Ah, damn. Well, Blockbuster, he's pissed.

34:22
And that's when he's gonna grab Tombstone by the legs and just start ragdolling him, slamming him into the ground repeatedly, like what the Hulk did to Loki in Avengers. Right, but again, Tombstone's rock hard, so this doesn't faze him too much. Yeah, dude. I don't wanna know that. His skin is as hard as a rock, is what I'm saying. So, you know, he's durable enough to handle this attack without being too hurt, and he's just gonna reach into one of his boots.

34:51
and pull out a switchblade that he uses to reach up and shank Blockbuster right in the gut with. And that's when Blockbuster's just gonna yeet Tombstone, like, tossing him like half a block away. And he's gonna pull out the knife, which, thanks for the weapon, and he's gonna charge Tombstone and just slam right into him knife first. Right. Okay, but the knife is gonna break. Blockbuster is not a smart villain.

35:17
Your mom's not a smart villain. And that's when Tombstone knees Blockbuster in the gut, you know, making him bend forward, and then Tombstone's gonna drop his elbow onto his head, and Blockbuster's gonna fall to the ground. And for his finishing move, Tombstone's gonna curb stomp the guy, like not in the figurative sense, but in the very literal sense, Tombstone's gonna curb stomp Blockbuster, cave his face in, and Tombstone wins the match.

35:43
No, because when Blockbuster is on the ground and he sees that he's about to get his head kicked in, he's going to quickly sweep Tombstone's leg out from under him, and when he hits the ground, Blockbuster is just going to shove his fingers right through Tombstone's eyes, through his skull, into his brain, killing him, because I'm guessing his eyeballs aren't rock hard. Actually, that's, yeah, you would be correct in that assumption. But like, Blockbuster is missing an eye, so he's going an eye for an eye here.

36:11
but Ni for Ni leaves the whole world blind. Yeah, Blockbuster probably does not give two shits about Gandhi. But we'll go ahead and leave the match there. Either Tombstone curb stomps Blockbuster or Blockbuster jams his fingers into Tombstone's brain through his eyes. Two violent mobster characters, two violent ways to end this match. But let's see which one happens by running the stats. AJ9K, hit it! Inputting data, running calculations, processing results.

36:41
Simulations complete. Yeah, that was pretty gruesome for sure. I figured this would be pretty visceral because these characters are pretty straightforward. You know, they're brawlers. Yeah, they're not going to hold back either. The stats were pretty interesting. Blockbuster is faster than Tombstone, even though Tombstone is pretty quick. Blockbuster, like you said, is like a rhino and can run really fast. Blockbuster is also smarter than Tombstone. Yeah, at least the version I went with is...

37:08
The Mark version is super not smart, but the Roland version actually is very much so. We did, however, give the edge to Tombstone in regards to durability, saying he's slightly more durable than Blockbuster, but also in regards to versatility, which actually wasn't too surprising to me, considering Tombstone will bring weapons into fights. Yeah. And he also has his sharp teeth, which he used to like bite things off. Right. He's a biter. Right. But also because of his weapons.

37:38
we gave the range edge to Tombstone as well. Yeah, otherwise, these characters were pretty much identical. You know, they had the same evasiveness. We said they're about the same strength level and had about the same fighting skill. So with all that said, Jonathan, who do you think is winning this match? I'm hoping it's Blockbuster, although Instagram does not agree with me for the first time in a long time. The Marvel character is actually coming out ahead with Tombstone currently sitting at 51 percent.

38:07
of the vote. Well, I'm glad to see that our Marvel Instagram fans are starting to show up for these polls, but that's still a little close guys. Like we really want to be dominating these polls. So if you're a Marvel fan, be sure to follow us on Instagram and then vote whenever Jonathan gets these polls up, you know, at the very last minute on Sundays when we record. Okay, that's fair. But let's get the final results of the match. AJ 9K, the results please. Hey, you are, sir. Okay, the winner of the duel.

38:36
between Blockbuster and Tombstone is... Tombstone! Gosh dang it! It wasn't a total wipeout, I think the match was fairly close. Out of 1000 simulated battles, Tombstone won 592, whereas Blockbuster won 408. In the end, the determining factors largely were range and durability considering Tombstone is rock hard. Ugh!

39:03
What I just I'm just gonna keep saying that now I don't like it And I don't like the results of this match either. I gotta say well you could blame Miggy for that one. I think yeah, Miggy What are you doing? You're a DC fan. Come on. I'll say that thematically It was a good pitch for a Duel matchup But yeah, the Marvel fans on the discord should all thank Miggy for his contribution to Marvel's win rate this week Miggy just stay off discord for a week just stay off of it

39:33
But that does it for this duel, AJ9K help close this out.

39:38
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40:08
Our next episode is going to be another duel episode in lead up to the Captain America Brave New World review that we'll be doing in a few weeks. We're going to find out who would win in a fight between Red Hulk and General Wade Eiling, also known as the General. But that does it for this episode. We want to give a big thanks to our executive producers, Ken Johnson.

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