Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) vs Prowler


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• 0:00:00 - Introduction
• 0:03:38 - No-Prize Time
• 0:10:38 - Question of the Week
• 0:11:44 - Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) vs...
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• 0:00:00 - Introduction
• 0:03:38 - No-Prize Time
• 0:10:38 - Question of the Week
• 0:11:44 - Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) vs Prowler intro
• 0:15:45 - Prowler history and abilities
• 0:26:09 - Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) history and abilities
• 0:35:47 - Fight speculation
• 0:41:43 - Duel results
• 0:44:02 - Sign off
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This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. Hi, welcome to
the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we
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review superhero films and debate the
superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing
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their characters in stat-based battle
simulations. I'm Johnny DC. And I'm his twin
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brother Marvelous Joe, holy shit. And as you can
tell from the sound of Joseph's voice, he is very
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sick, so he will be doing as little talking as
possible this episode, being a dual episode
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between Blue Beetle, the Ted Kord incarnation,
and Prowler, the Spider-Man villain. He's mostly
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an ally. Well that's news to me. I thought he was a
bad guy. Interesting. Alright, well we're gonna
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find out more about him later on in this episode.
Before that, we are not going to break down any
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comic book movie news from the past week because
there hasn't been any really some behind-the-set
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photos, but I don't know if things are made with AI
nowadays. So until it's confirmed by the studio,
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I'm just going to assume everything is fake.
Fucking crickets. This is what happens when
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Joseph can't speak. I have no one to laugh at my
jokes. Jokes suck, bro. Your voice sucks, bro. As
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where hosts John and Dean simulate battles
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yesterday's episode, they speculated on who
would win in a dogfight between Fox McLeod from
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Star Fox piloting his R-Wing against Wedge and
Tilly's from Star Wars Rogue Squadron piloting
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his X-Wing. Over on the Max Destruction podcast,
hosts Scotty and Gilly pay your favor action
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heroes from film and television against each
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the 1988 film Bloodsport. And finally on the Sanjo
World podcast, hosts Zachary Hepburn speculates
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on fights between fan favorite anime and manga
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who would win between Yaroichi Shihou-Yin from
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podcast network. But with that out of the way?
Quick to the no prize! A no prize is an award that
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Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the
Dynamic Dual No Prize, is a digital award that we
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post on Instagram for the person we feel gave the
best answer to our question of the week. Last week,
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we asked, what do you think of Crypto the Superdog
from the Superman sneak peek? And of course, this
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question was in regards to the extended trailer
that we received for the Superman film that came
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out of CinemaCon. We got four answers, so let's
break down this week's three honorable mentions
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before revealing the no prize winner. Our first
honorable mention goes to Christopher Minotti,
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who said, Hi guys, Christopher Minotti. So
Crypto, he's a little fluffier than I was
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expecting, but I'm still hoping that they do a good
job with him. I get that he's supposed to be the cute
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character, the lighthearted, well not
lighthearted, he's a dog, so of course. But I'm
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still hoping that they do a good job with him, and
I'm hoping that they have a cool scene with him. The
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first time I realized Crypto was cool was in
Blackest Night, when he saved Martha Kent by
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ripping up Black Lantern's arm off and then
blasting it with Heat Vision. Yeah, and the comics
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Crypto is no joke. He is fiercely loyal and doesn't
have the same morality that someone say like
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Superman has. So he's actually fairly dangerous.
This version of the dog is very fluffy, you know,
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usually he's depicted as a Labrador of some sorts,
but here he looks very much like almost like a
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poodle terrier mutt kind of dog. So they're
definitely trying to play up the cute factor with
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him, which is all right. I guess the cuter the dog
is, the more audiences will be happy with it, but
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we'll see how it goes. As I said in the last episode,
I have full confidence in James Gunn's writing,
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especially when it comes to animal characters,
you take a look at Rocker at Coon or something like
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that. So I think things should be fine. Didn't
Crypto almost kill Mongol? Yeah, actually he
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straight up bit his throat nearly killing him.
Great answer Christopher, our next honorable
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mention goes to Lee Tapscott, who said, What do I
think about Crypto in the Superman trailer? Man, I
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love this. I think dogs can really sense if a
person's good or bad. And Crypto just you can just
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tell he loves Superman. Superman is so good to him.
This makes me care about him so much in the energy.
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And when it comes push to shove, he knows exactly
what his master needs, takes him right to the help
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opens up that door. Smart dog. Yeah, like we
mentioned in the last episode, people are kind of
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trashing Crypto's intelligence, but I kind of see
it as him being well trained to an extent, right?
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He's really happy to see his owner. So he's jumping
on his owner. But once he realizes something is
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wrong, he listens to him and takes him straight to
the fortress of solitude. One of the secret
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shortcuts of getting a character to be likable in
film is to give them a dog character and have them be
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nice to a dog. I've brought this up before. I don't
know if this is what James Gunn is trying to do with
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Superman, just to make him more endearing to
audiences who may not necessarily care for the
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character. But if he plays his cards right, story
wise, I think he could totally pull that off
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between the characters of Crypto and Superman.
Because dogs, like Lee Tapscott said, are
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naturally intuitive. And if you like Superman,
general audiences will gather that, oh, this is a
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trustworthy character. Great answer, Lee. Our
final honorable mention goes to Peter, who said,
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what's up, dynamic dudes? It's Peter. My thoughts
on Crypto was, I thought it was really funny,
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honestly. Like when I first saw the trailer, I
laughed audibly, thinking that's a cute dog.
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That's something that my dog would do if I had one,
which I don't. But if I did, he would act like that.
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And especially since they're training him, I
think it'd be a fun part to the movie. So that's what
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I got to say. Thanks, guys. Peter Yeah. So every dog
I've had, I've rescued from an animal shelter. And
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they're not the best trained of dogs. When I come
home, my dog, Olive, is still super excited. She's
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a little white chihuahua, and you know, she'll hop
on me. It doesn't bother me because she's so small.
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I'm sure if she was the size of Crypto, I would be
more irritated by it. But yeah, I totally related
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to Crypto jumping on Superman in this extended
trailer. Again, I didn't love it initially. But
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once I realized, oh, hey, yeah, this reminds me of
my dog, it became much easier to understand what
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James Gunn was trying to do with this dog, because
he said before that Crypto was inspired by his dog
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that he rescued, who's not necessarily well
behaved. And so for him to put that into the movie is
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a slice of life of sorts. And it's definitely one
that I recognized for my own life. And I think a lot
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of people might have an 80 pound German shepherd
mix named Bucky. And I got to say if he did to me, what
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Crypto did to Superman, I'd be pissed. I don't
know, but there's also something to be said for a
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big lovable dog that loves you unconditionally
and just wants to give you a big hug and kiss when you
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come home. That's true. I love my dog. Great
answer, Peter. The winner of this week's no prize,
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however, is Travis Herndon. Who said? What's up,
Jeremy? Dude's Travis here. Shout out to my even
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twin. So my answer is I like Crypto and honestly, he
doesn't deserve to hate him. Yes, especially from
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a certain YouTuber saying that like, well, my dog,
he ain't dog, he's stuff though, whimpered and
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whined when I pretend to be hurting stuff. And to
that, Crypto is based off of James Gunn's own dog
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who was a rowdy, rambunctious puppy. So I mean, it
wouldn't make sense why he would be acting like
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that. It's based off his own dog. Yeah, I'm not sure
which YouTuber Travis is referring to. But like
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I've said, the inclusion of Crypto was inspired by
James Gunn's own dog, who he rescued from a
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shelter. And you just got to admire that, you know,
taking a dog that could have been put down and
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giving it a new home, giving it a loving family,
whether it's behaved or not, you know, it still
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deserves to have the love of James Gunn and his
family. For him to include the character of his dog
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in the movie, I think is pretty awesome
personally. And I have to say, I'm pretty happy
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that everyone who called in seemed to enjoy Crypto
because I was worried that a lot of people weren't,
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you know, the internet could be a pretty negative
place sometimes. But shout out to all of our
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listeners, especially the ones who have just
called in who like Crypto. I think he's going to be a
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fun addition to the Superman film that comes out
this July. Yeah, don't be a cynical asshole on the
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internet like dogs, right? Yeah, what are you,
some kind of dog hater? YouTube guy. Yeah, whoever
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you are. Great answer, Travis. You win the Speak to
No Prize. If you're the listener want to shout at
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winning your own no prize, stay tuned to later on in
this episode when we'll be asking another
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question of the week. Another that's done. On to
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there's no big comic book movie news from this past
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for me to stay up to date with current comics. I feel
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to get onto the main events of this episode, where
we find out who would win in a battle between Ted
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court, the blue beetle and prowler. All right,
blue beetle versus prowler. Of course, this is the
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Ted cord version of blue beetle. And the fact that
we've waited until year. What is this 10 to get to
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Ted cord is a travesty of justice. It is wrong, but
we're going to make it right here today. Because
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Ted cord is a solid B Lister, if not a Lister of the DC
Comics Pantheon, I would say. Prowler. Not so
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much. He's like a C level Spider-Man villain or I
guess a parent ally. I don't know much about him. I
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do know that both of these characters are very tech
based. And I think that's why the executive
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producers wanted to put them together. I do
remember the parlor from the 90s Spider-Man
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television series, the cartoon. But of course, he
was also famously in the into the spider verse
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film, as well as beyond the spider verse, although
that version was Miles Morales spoiler alert.
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Yeah, there have been two prominent prowler
characters in the comics over the years. You sound
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like RFK Junior, man. Okay. And one of them
obviously is Miles Morales is uncle. Correct.
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Okay. Now, outside of the cartoons, blue beetle
hasn't had too many appearances in the media. He
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was referenced in the live action blue beetle
movie, but we never actually got to see him.
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Fingers crossed he appears in an eventual sequel.
We're going to learn more about blue beetle and
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Prowler here soon. But to explain the methodology
behind our duels, let's go to our sentient dual
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simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ and NK tell our
listeners how you go about determining a winner in
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our dual matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I
determine a winner between the contestants is by
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running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the
characters statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation
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is a probabilistic model used to determine
outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I
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randomize the statistics along a normal
distribution as a way to simulate the many
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variables that can occur during battle. The stat
parameters are based on the official Marvel power
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grid from which the DC characters statistics are
extrapolated. Additional stat categories are
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included such as range, damage potential,
versatility and perception in order to create a
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more detailed and accurate simulation. The
results of the 1000 simulations provide a
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percentage of wins for each character. The
contestant with the higher percentage is
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declared the victor as they have a higher
probability to win any given battle. In an
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equitable pairing, neither character should win
100% of the matches. The comic book stories have
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shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat
Superman, so the confidence rate of my method
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falls in line with the precedents that have been
established in the source material. My
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mathematical simulations are without
subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole
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consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for
determination of the winner. Thanks, AJ9K.
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Before we run the simulations, though, we like to
break down each character's histories and
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abilities before improvising a scenario on how we
imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out
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beat for beat. I believe it's your turn to go first,
Joseph, but since you're freaking dying, I will
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read all about the prowler. Born in the Bronx as the
youngest of nine children, Hobart Hobie Brown
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showed an early talent as an inventor but faced a
difficult upbringing. His father, Tiger Brown,
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left the family when Hobie was a baby and later died
during military service in Cambodia. His mother,
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overwhelmed by their responsibility, became an
alcoholic, leaving Hobie and his siblings to
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raise themselves. After high school, Hobie
became a window washer to support himself despite
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his engineering skills. During a job, he was
nearly killed in a battle between Stiltman and
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Spider-Man. Inspired to make his window washing
job safer, Hobie designed pneumatic safety
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equipment, including air pressure boots to
counter high winds, wrist-mounted sprayers, and
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a safety grappling system. You can learn more
about Spider-Man and his duel against Blue
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Beetle, Jaime Reyes, and more about Stiltman and
his duel against Kite Man. Hobie's inventive
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ideas were rejected by his employer, who had only
hired him to meet a racial quota. After quitting,
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Hobie decided to adopt the costumed identity of
the prowler, planning to a robbery and return the
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stolen goods to gain publicity for his
inventions. Targeting the Daily Bugle's
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payroll, he encountered Peter Parker during the
heist. In order to change into Spider-Man, Peter
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faked being thrown out of a window, causing J.
Jonah Jameson to believe the prowler had
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committed murder. Spider-Man subdued Hobie, but
realizing his intent was not malicious, let him go
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with advice to change his path. Hobie took the
message to heart and abandoned his criminal
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plans. Hobie soon impersonated Spider-Man at
Peter's request to help protect his identity,
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wearing the costume in front of Peter's friends
while Peter pretended to be ill. Believing
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Spider-Man was responsible for the death of
Captain George Stacey, Hobie tried to bring him to
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justice but failed. Hobie later married his
longtime girlfriend, Mindy, and worked in
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construction. Through the Big Brother program,
he met her young man named Manny Lopez, who was
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later killed in a gang incident. Believing Hector
Ayala, the White Tiger, was responsible, Hobie
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fought him until realizing his mistake. While
trying to join the superhero team of the
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defenders, Hobie was thrown into the harbor by
Valkyrie and chose to retire from heroics.
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However, his prowler equipment was stolen and
used by a second prowler to commit a murder.
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Spider-Man recovered the gear and persuaded
Hobie to stay uninvolved. Hobie later resumed the
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prowler identity to help clear Mindy's name after
she was framed for financial fraud. He retrieved
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the evidence from a cellist targeted by the Black
Fox and worked with Spider-Man to clear her name.
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When Spider-Man was framed for robbing a
millionaire, Hobie teamed up with several allies
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including Puma, Rocket Racer, and Sandman.
Silver Sable, a mercenary from the Eastern
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European nation of Simcaria, offered the group
further work. Hobie joined Silver Sable's
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mercenary team called the Outlaws and
participated in missions across North America
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and England, once battling Excalibur and
uncovering a rogue Arnim Zola construct. At the
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time, he trained with his brother Abraham Abe
Brown, who was a martial artist and former wielder
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of White Tiger's Jade Amulets as a member of the
Sons of the Tiger. You can learn more about Silver
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Sable and White Tiger in their respective duels
against Vigilante and Bronze Tiger. Hobie teamed
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up with his brother Abe to fight street crime, but
was temporarily injured battling Killer Shrike.
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Though Hobie's wife Mindy left him after
discovering his identity, she returned when he
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was paralyzed in a fall caused by the villain Black
Bull. While recovering, his gear was stolen
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again, this time by a criminal named Rick Lawson,
who posed as the prowler until being hospitalized
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by the vulture. Regaining mobility, Hobie
resumed the prowler role and aided Spider-Man
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during a building fire. He provided Spider-Man
with a jet pack used during a period when Peter
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adopted the Hornet persona. Hobie was arrested
during the Superhuman Registration Act
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conflict, but escaped with the help of Captain
America's secret Avengers. Peter Parker later
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hired Hobie to impersonate Spider-Man again to
maintain his cover. Hobie then infiltrated new U
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technologies for Parker Industries and
discovered an experiment involving the villain
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Electro, who severely injured him. He was placed
in stasis by the genetic mastermind known as the
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Jackal and it was cloned. The clone served the
Jackal, while the real Hobie remained
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unconscious in cryosleep. After being
recovered, Hobie ended his alliance with
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Spider-Man and was hired by Tony Stark to lead a
crowdfunding firm. When the symbiote god Null
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invaded Earth, Hobie adopted the identity of
Hornet and used hacked Stark Tech to repel the
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symbiotes. Later, during a gang war conflict,
Hobie lent a prowler suit to a man named Aaron Davis
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to investigate the villain Hobgoblin. Hobie
warned Davis that he misused the prowler suit, he
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would take it back and reclaim the identity. Aaron
Davis was a former career criminal from an
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alternate universe called Earth 1610, Marvel's
ultimate universe. There, Aaron was the brother
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of Jefferson Davis, the father of Miles Morales.
While Jefferson reformed as a criminal and became
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a police officer after marrying Rio Morales,
Aaron continued his criminal life, using stolen
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tech to become the prowler. At one point, he broke
into an abandoned Oz Corp facility and knowingly
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took a genetically altered spider with him. The
spider later bit his nephew Miles Morales, giving
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him spider powers and making him the new
Spider-Man. Though Jefferson disapproved of
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Aaron's influence, Miles maintained a close
relationship with his uncle. You can learn more
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about Miles Morales Spider-Man and his duel
against Batwing. Aaron traveled to Mexico City to
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confront a rival criminal known as the Scorpion,
but was arrested and returned to New York. He
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attempted to manipulate Miles and to help him
eliminate the Scorpion, but Miles refused. In a
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final confrontation, Aaron's gauntlets
exploded, killing him. Before dying, he
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cryptically claimed that Miles was just like him.
After the universal incursions that led to the
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collapse and the eventual rebirth of the
multiverse, Aaron was restored to life in
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Morales' primary 616 timeline with no memory of
his death. He purchased an iron spider suit off the
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black market and helped form a new Sinister 6
alongside bombshell, electro, hobgoblin,
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sandman, and the spot stealing a decommissioned
shield helicarrier. Miles, who was also brought
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into the main Marvel timeline, confronted his
uncle. And though the Sinister 6 succeeded in
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their heist, Aaron appeared to die during the
ensuing battle, though he was merely injured.
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Influenced by his nephew, Aaron began distancing
A villain who can learn more about his duel against
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Blockbuster. When Miles was kidnapped by the
villain Assessor, Aaron sought help from his
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estranged brother Jefferson. After
commissioning a new prowler suit from a criminal
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weapons designer, he joined Jefferson in
infiltrating the Assessor's facility, rescuing
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Miles. Later while working for the villain
Ultimatum, actually the Earth 616 variant of
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Miles, Aaron attempted to assassinate a criminal
but was stopped by Spider-Man Miles. The botched
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job resulted in a bounty on Aaron, which forced him
into a deal that placed him under Ultimatum's
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control. Aaron joined his nephew Miles at the
hospital for the birth of his sister Billy, and
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later helped resist Ultimatum's plan to return
them to their original universe. During a battle
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with Ultimatum's forces, including the Green
Goblin and his Goblinoids, Aaron sacrificed
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himself by overloading his suit, sending
Ultimatum and the Goblin away. Aaron was presumed
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dead. In reality, Aaron awoke in an alternate
dystopian world ruled by Selim, an evil clone of
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Miles Morales. Selim used Aaron's unique
dimensional signature to power a shield around
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his empire. Aaron was imprisoned and used as a
living power source for decades. When Miles
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arrived in the alternate dimension to rescue his
uncle, Aaron was freed and recovered enough to
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fight alongside his nephew. After defeating
Selim, Aaron and Miles traveled back to Earth 616.
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Upon their return was when Hobie Brown recruited
Aaron to resume the Prowler identity, tasking him
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with uncovering the villain Hobgoblin's plans.
Aaron went undercover as a villain for hire and
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joined Hobgoblin's crew, supplying weapons to
criminals and clashing with Miles, until his
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cover was revealed. Aaron divulged Hobgoblin's
location and joined Miles, Miss Marvel, and
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others to raid the villain's hideout, fighting
alongside them to bring down that criminal
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empire. And that's Prowler's history.
Nobilities-wise, the Prowler has a specialized
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suit made from a modified military flak jacket
that protects him from concussive forces such as
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explosions or falls from great heights. It comes
with a variety of pneumatic or air-based gadgets,
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including a cape that can expand, allowing him to
glide over great distances. His boots are rubber
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insulated with compressed air technology that
allows him to leave multiple stories high and land
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safely. His specialized gauntlets have steel
claws used for fighting and scaling buildings,
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and they have wrist-mounted compressed air
launchers that can fire projectiles such as
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grappling hooks, gas pellets, steel darts,
flares, or compressed air blasts. Prowler's suit
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also comes with some stealth and infiltration
gadgets such as night vision goggles and
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temperature control to avoid infrared
detection. Both Hobbie and Aaron are
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intellectually gifted, one as an inventor and the
other as a thief. They're both experienced
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fighters and skilled marksmen. So which version
will you be going with? I figured it could be either
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or. If you're more of a fan of Hobbie, you can
imagine him in this fight or if you're more of a fan
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of Aaron, who is the modern and current Prowler,
then you can imagine him in this fight. I didn't
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realize he had so much compressed air like a tax.
Yeah, that's his whole thing. So does Blue Beetle.
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Yeah, they have a lot in common. Interesting, I had
no idea. Well, to find out how much they have in
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common, let me get into Blue Beetle Ted Kord's
backstory. Now Theodore Ted Kord was born with a
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gifted intellect, excelling in science,
literature and business from a young age. While he
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initially considered joining his father's
company, Kord Omni-Versal Research and
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Development, his life changed course after
uncovering a nefarious plot by his uncle Jarvis
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Kord. Discovering that Jarvis intended to
unleash an army of super androids for world
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domination, Ted sought the help of his
archaeology professor, Dan Garrett, who also
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happened to be the original Blue Beetle. Together
they confronted Jarvis on Pago Island, where Dan
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revealed his heroic identity and used the power of
a mystical scarab he had discovered years
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earlier. In the ensuing battle, Dan was mortally
wounded. With his dying breath, Dan entrusted Ted
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with the scarab and the Blue Beetle legacy. Though
Ted accepted the mantle, the scarab failed to
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activate for him, refusing to give up he trained to
physical perfection, becoming a skilled
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hand-to-hand combatant, and constructed a
variety of crime-fighting gadgets, including a
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signature air blast pistol and a beetle-shaped
aircraft known as the Bug. Operating
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independently of the scarab, Ted forged his own
identity as the second Blue Beetle. Reviving Kord
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Omni-Versal, he turned the company into a major R
&D enterprise, Rivalink Star Labs. From his home
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base in Chicago, he launched his career as a
costumed vigilante, taking on foes such as the Mad
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Men, Carapax the Indestructible Man, and the
villainous cult known as the Men of the Mask. Ted
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Kord's early career brought him into the orbit of
the world's greatest heroes when he was recruited
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by the Monitor during the Crisis on Infinite
Earths. During the multiversal conflict, Ted
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wielded the Blue Beetle Scarab to destroy shadow
demons, but later lost track of it amidst the
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chaos. With the crisis resolved, Ted joined the
newly-reformed Justice League. As a founding
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member of the Justice League International, Ted
served as the league's primary pilot and
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technician. There he met Booster Gold, who
quickly became his closest friend and frequent
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partner in crime-fighting and mischief. Known
collectively as Blue and Gold, the duo balanced
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comic relief with critical contributions and
missions against League villains. You can learn
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more about Booster Gold in our Booster Gold vs.
Cable dual episode. While in the league, Ted's
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confidence in Wasteline began to waver due to long
hours spent in the lab. With encouragement from
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teammates such as General Glory and Guy Gardner,
he regained his physical conditioning, though
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not before suffering severe injuries during
battles, including a coma after Doomstay's
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rampage. Despite these setbacks, Ted remained
active in the field, even joining the spin-off
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team Extreme Justice alongside Booster and
Captain Adam, who you can learn more about in his
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duel against Wonder Man. In time, Ted left the
league and reasserted control of Cord
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Omniversal, eventually making it a subsidiary of
Wayne Enterprises. During this period, he grew
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close to Barbara Gordon, aka Oracle, initially as
an online acquaintance. The two developed a deep
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friendship and Ted provided her team, the Birds of
Prey, with funding and technology. You can learn
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more about the Birds of Prey in our Birds of Prey vs.
A Force Team dual episode. Though he eventually
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discovered he had a heart condition, Ted
continued his heroics, occasionally operating
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as Blue Beetle in spite of the risk. Ted came back
into possession of Dangarit Scarab after it was
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unearthed by Hawkman, though it once again
remained inert in his presence. Around the same
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time, Ted noticed strange financial movements
within Cord Omniversal. Funds were being
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siphoned and rerouted to mysterious shell
companies. He began investigating, only to be
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attacked by a group of thugs known as the Mad Men,
severely injuring Booster in the process.
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Tracing a signal hidden within his damaged
equipment, Ted uncovered the location of a secret
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facility in Switzerland. There he discovered
that Maxwell Lord, one of his former League
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teammates, had taken over the organization
Checkmate and intended to use the OMAC project to
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neutralize the global metahuman population.
Lord offered Ted a place at his side. When Ted
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refused, Max executed him with a gunshot to the
head. Ted's death shocked the hero community. A
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statue was erected in his honor, and Barbara
Gordon memorialized his contributions. Though
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the Scarab ultimately passed to a new host,
teenager Jaime Reyes, Ted's legacy endured
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through his inventions, his friendship with
Booster Gold, and his example as a hero without
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powers who stood among gods. In the wake of Ted's
death, Booster Gold and a future blue beetle
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attempted to change history by rescuing him
through time travel. When they succeeded in
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briefly bringing Ted forward in time, the
resulting timeline plunged Earth into a dystopia
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ruled by OMACs, realizing the cost of his
survival, Ted returned to his original time to die
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as he was meant to, thereby restoring the
timeline. During the Blackest Night, a Black
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Lantern ring reanimated Ted's corpse. As a Black
Lantern, he attempted to murder Booster, Jaime,
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and others, but was eventually neutralized using
technology Ted himself had designed. His remains
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were taken to a point outside of time known as the
Vanishing Point to prevent further
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resurrection. In post-flashpoint continuity,
Ted Corde reemerged, once again depicted as a
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scientific, genius, and industrialist who had
retired from being blue beetle due to health
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concerns. When Jaime Reyes approached him for
help in understanding the mysterious Scarab, Ted
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became his reluctant mentor and benefactor.
Though Jaime initially rejected the superhero
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lifestyle, Ted saw promise in him and provided
guidance, resources, and technological
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support, constructing a mobile command center
and even donning his old blue beetle suit when
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needed. Ted's investigations into the Scarab
brought him into conflict with Dr. Fate, who
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declared the Scarab to be magical in origin,
contrary to Ted's belief it was alien technology.
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Ted later joined a coalition of heroes including
the question Captain Adam, Nightshade, and more,
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who traveled to Mars to confront Dr. Manhattan for
putting Superman into a coma, though Ted and the
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other heroes were overpowered and scattered. You
can learn more about Dr. Manhattan in our Dr.
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Manhattan vs. Molecule Man dual episode. Ted
later became a target of Black Mask, who
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imprisoned him and used illusion-based powers to
impersonate him. Under Black Mask's control,
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Corde Industries funneled resources into
illicit operations, including a revamped
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Suicide Squad. With help from the Justice League
and an international team known as the
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Revolutionaries, the real Ted was freed and
helped dismantle Black Mask's scheme. You can
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learn more about Black Mask in his dual against
Madame Mask. Ted reunited with Booster Gold to
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form Blue and Gold Restoration, a private hero for
higher business dedicated to helping everyday
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people. Though he was ousted from Corde
Industries for mismanagement, Ted chose to keep
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working with Booster instead of rejoining the
Justice League. Their venture faced financial
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challenges, but they continued their mission,
providing aid to those overlooked by larger
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organizations. Ted was briefly imprisoned by the
Batman who laughs on New Apocalypse, where he was
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killed by a giant beetle during the Dark
Multiverse Crisis and resurrected via a Black
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Lantern Ring. Despite these ordeals, he returned
to life once more and continued his
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crime-fighting career alongside his best friend
Booster Gold and protégé Jaime Reyes. Now,
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powers-wise, Ted Corde possesses no innate
superpowers as Blue Beetle, but his genius level
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intellect places him among the most brilliant
minds in the world. He's a master inventor and
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engineer, creating an array of gadgets and
vehicles. His trademark weapon is the BB Gun,
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capable of emitting blinding flashes or
compressed air blasts strong enough to knock back
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attackers. Though he also carries smoke bombs,
acid capsules, grappling launchers, and small
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beetle-shaped flying surveillance drones known
as baby bugs. His greatest engineering feat,
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however, is the bug. An airship that can fly at 600
miles per hour, travel into outer space and
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underwater, fire electromagnetic beams,
electrify its hull, shoot nets and grapples, and
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more, all from the control of his gloves.
Physically, Blue Beetle trained to peak human
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condition and was an Olympic-level acrobat and
martial artist, specializing in Akito and
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karate, though his weight and physical ability
has fluctuated over the years due to his heart
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condition. Thankfully, Blue Beetle's suit
slightly enhances his strength and durability,
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while also coming equipped with suction pads that
allow him to adhere to walls and vision-enhancing
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goggles. That's Blue Beetle. Is he gonna have his
bug ship during this fight? Hell yes he does! Let me
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rephrase that, that wasn't a question. Blue
Beetle will not be having his bug ship during the
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course of this fight, it's just gonna be
mono-e-mono. Do you understand? I understand
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that it's something that you do not want. Thank
you. Alright. Did you see more about how similar
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they are? Because not only do they have like
air-compressed weapons, they can also climb on
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walls, one with suction cups, one with claws. They
both have like light strobes. And they both died
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like several times. Right, exactly. But now that
we've got their histories and abilities out of the
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way, let's speculate on how one of the 1000
simulated matches will go. The winner is
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determined by simulations, not the speculation.
But it's fun to imagine how this fight could play
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out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation?
Well, I should say there are no rules, other than
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the characters have no prior knowledge of the
other going into the fight. All they are aware of
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starting out is that the other character is a
threat that needs to be eliminated. For the
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speculation, the contestants will begin
approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript
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environment that will have no bearing on the match
itself, as no environmental statistics are
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considered in my simulations. The contestants
must earn victory on their own merit. Alright
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then, let's get into it. Blue Beetle and a prowler
meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'm gonna
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say that prowler goes first. He's gonna speed
blitz Blue Beetle with his claws, and before Blue
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Beetle can even say, oh shit this guy is scary
fucking fast, he's just gonna get slashed across
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his face. No, prowler's fast but not faster than
Blue Beetle can quick draw his BB gun and just flash
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a strobe right in the guy's face so he's
disoriented and seeing spots. So with prowler
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partially blinded, Blue Beetle's easily gonna
leap over his blitz and tag prowler in the back with
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a compressed air blast that just makes him fall
flat on his face. And as he lands, as prowler is
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getting up from the ground, Blue Beetle sends out a
few baby bug drones that scan the area. How big are
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these drones? I've seen various sizes for these,
sometimes they're like the size of a volleyball,
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but I've also seen them like the size of his palm.
Okay, prowler notices these drones as he gets to
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his feet, and he's gonna shoot down a gas capsule
that creates a dark cloud of smoke around him and
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it's gonna hide him from these drones and from Blue
Beetle's sight. Uh, you know, Blue Beetle's just
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gonna switch the drone surveillance to infrared
so he can see prowler's heat signature with his
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dope ass goggles. Except prowler is invisible to
infrared. Okay, so I don't know, Blue Beetle
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switches to night vision to see through the dark
smoke and uses drones, shoot down some acid cap.
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You know, because Blue Beetle's night vision is
activated, prowler, he shoots out a magnesium
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flare right then, and it's just gonna light up Blue
Beetle's entire view. And that's gonna
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temporarily blind him. So like, as Blue Beetle's
grabbing at his goggles, prowler is gonna shoot
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the bug drones out of the air with some darts by our
term as gauntlets. And then he's gonna leap out of
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the smoke and just flying kick Blue Beetle right
into his beard gut. Six pack, my man. Six pack. He's
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been working out. Six pack of beer. All right, so he
takes the kick, lands on his back, but he's gonna
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back somersault onto his hands and knees before
launching himself with his legs back at prowler
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and rocking him with a spinning back fist. He's
blind. How did he even see the prowler to hit him? I
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don't know. He's, you know, he peered through the
spots in his vision. He's good like that. Well, not
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good enough, because prowler blocks this hit. Oh,
it's a spinning double back fist. So when prowler
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blocks one hand, Blue Beetle just spins the
opposite direction and clocks him with the other
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hand. What? Okay, prowler gets hit, but he's gonna
counter with a spin kick and slashing uppercut
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combo, followed by this like compressed air blast
from his gauntlets that just sends Blue Beetle
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flying backward and knocking the wind out of him.
No, no, because in the middle of this combo,
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suddenly prowler finds himself wrapped in a net
all around him. And as he struggles to move, he's
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hoisted into the air by Blue Beetle's bug ship with
a cable that was attached to the net. I said, you're
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making me sick here. I said, you can't use the bug
ship. I'm sorry. I thought you'd know I just
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naturally use whatever Blue Beetle uses out in the
field. St. Blue Beetle can't have his bug ship is
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like saying ghost writer can't have his hell cycle
or silver surfer can't have his surfboard. I doubt
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that. Regardless, prowler is gonna slash his way
out of this net with his claws. And then he's gonna
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glide down toward Blue Beetle, who's like, Oh,
fuck, my cheating ass is about to die. And prowler
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lands feet first onto Blue Beetle, and he
activates his compressed air boots right as he
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lands, which like a shotgun blast just explodes
Blue Beetle into a blue smear on the ground. No,
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this net is made with metal fibers. And before
prowler could slash his way out of it, the bug ship
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just sends an electric current into the net
electrocuting prowler and just sizzling him to a
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crisp. Like I said, cheating ass, you can't use the
bug ship in this. I don't know what to tell you, bro.
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It happened, except it. Okay, we'll go ahead and
leave the match there. Either Jonathan cheats and
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the bug ship captures and electrocutes the
prowler, or he plays this like a man and prowler
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just eviscerates Blue Beetle with his air
compressed boots. Hey, it takes a real man to admit
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when he's defeated, Joseph. Let's go ahead and
find out who wins by inputting the stats, running
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the simulations and finding out who comes out on
top. AJ9K hit it. Inputting data, running
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calculations, processing results, simulations
complete. Okay, this was an awesome match. These
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characters are way more similar than I would have
thought. And I kind of always love when that
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happens. We just kind of serendipitously fall
into an awesome match that I never even knew I
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wanted to see. Yeah, they had a lot in common,
including their invasiveness, their fighting
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skill, their range, their perception. They had a
lot in common. Yeah, where Blue Beetle had the edge
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was versatility. He just has more gadgets and
intelligence, but just barely. Blue Beetle did
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have the edge when I came to movement speed,
because yes, I did factor the bug ship into his
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stats. You cheating bastard. Well, we just
figured that a majority of the time we see the
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character, whether it's in the comics or in other
media, he has his bug ship. It's a big part of who the
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character is. It's like seeing Night Owl from
Watchmen without his Owl ship. And because of
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that, Blue Beetle also got the edge when it came to
damage level. Yeah, the bug ship is such a big part
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of the lore of the character that it was even
incorporated in the Blue Beetle live action
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movie, even though Hymeria's doesn't use the bug
ship. Exactly. So who do you think is winning this
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one, Jonathan? Is that even a question? Blue
Beetle all the way. And Instagram agrees with me,
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because 69% of the people who took the poll voted
for Blue Beetle. Whoever voted for Blue Beetle in
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that poll doesn't even know what a 69 is. Let's go
ahead and get the results. Hey, you are, sir. The
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winner of the matchup between Blue Beetle and
prowler is, I'm so sick. Can't even say it. Blue
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Beetle. Yay. Out of the 1000 matches, Blue Beetle
won 65.6% of the time. Proller only won 34.4%.
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Okay, so Blue Beetle wins about two-thirds of the
time. Not quite. About two-thirds, though.
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Aren't you glad that you rolled out a bed for this?
This is awesome. No. No, in fact, this whole day
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just sucks. Well, sorry to add to your misery, but
also hashtag, sorry, not sorry. Let's get your ass
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back in bed so you don't die. That does it for this
duel. AJ9K, help close us out. In our next episode,
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we will be reviewing Daredevil born again. I have
not finished watching it, but so far, so good. That
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does it for this episode. We want to give a big
thanks to our executive producers, John
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Sturrosky, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcom,
Miggy Mathen-Gian, Brandon Estegard, Nathaniel
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Wagner, Levi Yatn, Austin Wazelowski, AJ
Dunkerly, Nick Obanto, Scott Camacho, Gil
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Camacho, Adam Spees, Dean Molesky, Devin Davis,
Joseph Kirsting, Josh Leiner, Mike Williams, and
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Oscar Galvez for helping make this podcast
possible. We'll talk to you guys next week. Up, up,
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and away, true believers. Fun fact, Blue Beetle's
alternate dimension variant is called Dung
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Beetle, who is a member of the League of Nasty
Bastards. Look it up.