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This is a DynaMic Network podcast.
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Welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations. I'm Johnny DC. And I'm his twin brother Marvelous Joe. And in this episode- Incoming. Whoa, what's going on AJ9K? Incoming transmission from Diamondback at Console Combat. File name man vmonster.afd. Duel input re-initiated.
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new fighter selection, Godzilla vs Ultraman. Okay that's weird, so it seems like our initial episode idea has been scrapped due to this glitch and we are now going to bring you the matchup of Godzilla vs Ultraman. Crazy! And since this glitch is coming from Console Combat, we bet that you can probably check out the first part of this duel matchup over on their podcast. We're just going to be continuing the battle here.
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Before that, we're going to break down the comic book movie news from the past week, of which there was none! But we did miss a news item from two weeks ago, and that was the third trailer for Suicide Squad, Isekai. That's right, folks, this entire episode is brought to you from the Isle of Japan! Hai! As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Our artificially intelligent duel simulator, AJ-9K,
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them on social media. Check it out at patreon.com slash dynamic duel. Pip pip cheerio. Thanks AJ9K and thanks to everyone who supports the podcast. Guys be sure to check out the rest of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network, especially this week because you will be getting four times the Godzilla versus Ultraman goodness. As we just stated, you'll get the first part of this battle in console combat. This episode is just continuing what they started, so be sure to check out console combat.
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followed by Max Destruction tomorrow, and then Senjoworld on Thursday for the conclusion. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click on the link in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the DynaMic Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Duel No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week.
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Last week we asked, what song do you hope to hear in Joker Follyadoo and what character would sing it? Now this is coming off of the news that the Joker sequel movie is going to be a jukebox musical with popular pop songs in it. It was a disappointing news item but it gave us some great answers that we're going to break down now. We got a lot of them. We're going to give you the three honorable mentions as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Christian Rubito who said.
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Hey, this is Christian Urbito. I'm going to submit the answer of Break Stuff by Lynn Biscuit, because that's kind of how I feel when I learned that this movie was going to be a musical. The first movie is one of my favorite DC movies ever. And to hear this is extremely disappointing. And to the fact of who can sing it, I guess everyone together. So it can really pack a punch. Yeah, thanks, all. I mean, it's all about the he said, she said bullshit. I hope you know that Joker packs his chainsaw, and they'll skin your ass raw.
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Weren't those the days when like Limp Bizkit was like, OK to like? Yeah. Oh, man, they were huge back in the day. And I don't know what happened. They just just sucked, I guess. I don't know about that. I still like I really still like the song that they did for Mission Impossible. But break stuff. That's an inspired choice. I can't say that I see that working too well within the tone that Todd Phillips has established with the first Joker movie. But then again, this seems to be a departure from that anyway.
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Right, I mean, and plus, you know, the Joker's an angry guy and Break Stuff is like the ultimate angry song. So, great answer, Christian. Our next honorable mention goes to Andrew Shunk, who said, Hey guys, Andrew Shunk here. I would have to say Mad World, the Gary Jules version that was in Donnie Darko, would be great for this movie. I would have Harley Quinn sing it and it could even be a duet.
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but start with Harley Quinn singing. Feeling kind of funny, feeling kind of sad. The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had. I think those depressing lyrics totally fit fine with the themes of the Joker. Yeah, he mentioned that he would want to hear the Gary Jules version, which is a great version. But of course, that is a cover of a song originally done by Tears for Fears. And I think that one would actually work pretty well within the period piece type of film that is the Joker.
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And also, I believe Harley Quinn first debuted in an episode of Batman the Animated Series that was called Mad Love. Well, it wasn't her debut, but it was an award-winning episode that went into her origin. I see, I see. Mad World, Mad Love. They could change it up to Mad Love. Yeah, totally. Great answer, Andrew. Our final honorable mention goes to Waldo. Found him! Who said? Hey guys, this is Waldo. Longtime listener, first time caller. I feel like
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It's an obvious answer, but I just have to say it. Lady Gaga needs to sing Joker Face. I mean, it's right there. If they don't do it, that is an intentionally missed opportunity. Mama, Mama Joker Face, Mama Joker Face, Mama, Mama. Yeah, you know she doesn't repeat Poker Face that second time, right? Did you know that? I only just learned that she says Fucker Face in this song. That's crazy. Kids, listen to that on the radio.
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No, but taking poker face and trying to get into Joker face is very on the nose for a film starring Lady Gaga. Probably too on the nose for the film, but I did like your creative twist on the song to make it Joker face. I wonder what she'll mean when she goes, can't read my can't read my no, he can't read my Joker face. It means she's just wearing too much makeup, I guess. Great answers.
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Everyone, we want to give a quick shout out to Colby Hentges, John Storosky, Mitchell Smoothie and Scott Camacho for also taking the time to visit our website and drop us an answer. Appreciate it guys. But the winner of this week's No Prize goes to Lizzie Dyer Arnie, who said, Cause I'm a picker, I'm a grinner, I'm a lover, and I'm a sinner. Playing my music in the sun. I'm a joker, I'm a smoker, I'm a midnight toker.
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Shoulda want to hurt no one. The Joker by the Steve Miller band. Thanks. Yeah. Great job. There we go. Great job. Well done. Great answer, by the way. Actually, when we first asked this question, I told Jonathan that I was hoping someone would answer with The Joker by the Steve Miller band because that's like, you know, that's the obvious answer. It's set right in that time period too. And it just seems spot on.
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Great job Lizzie for giving us that great rendition. That was awesome. As is the song. I totally remember jamming out to that song on Guitar Hero back when that was a thing. Yeah I hated doing vocals for that song. You know what part like whistles it's like whoo whoo. Great answer Lizzie. Thanks for being a great sport. You win this week's no prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own no prize, stay tuned to later on this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And now that that's done, on to the news.
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Okay, so a couple of weeks ago we got the third trailer for the anime series, Suicide Squad Isakai, along with a release date for the premiere of the show in Japan at least. We have no word when it's gonna arrive in America yet, but at least we know in Japan it will be debuting this July. I imagine it's not gonna come to America until they localize it and do dubs for the voice track, but who knows, we'll see. I wouldn't watch that anyway, I'm gonna watch the subs.
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Hell yeah, subs before dubs. The trailer starts off with this romantic kind of scene between Harley Quinn and the Joker, who looks pretty awesome. Way cooler than the Jared Leto version. He still has tattoos, but the tattoo is like of a smile on his face rather than like damaged. Yeah, these tattoos actually make sense. Right, yeah. A lot of this film looks heavily inspired by both Suicide Squad films and it's just pretty much dripping with style.
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but it also doesn't hurt that it has a pretty catchy J-pop song going on in the background. The trailer definitely seems to be promoting the song, which I guess is called Go-Getters by Maury Kaliope. Never heard of that artist, but it's pretty cool. I thought you were a big J-pop fan, Jon. K-pop, bro! K-pop! Don't be racist! I bet you so many new listeners are surprised that you listen to K-pop, and so many older listeners are not surprised at all considering how little you know about music.
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That's why it's because he listens to K-pop. Just because you spend a year living in Korea. It's catchy. It's catchy. But no, it looks like eventually Harley Quinn gets separated from the Joker and she's taken with other members of the Suicide Squad to the world of Isekai, which I guess is connected to the DC world through a portal of some sort. And they're there to put a stop between a war between a kingdom and an empire, it looks like.
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Is it just me or is the plot to this thing look extremely vague? Like we've gotten three trailers for this and I don't think we've gotten any new information on what the story actually is, besides the fact that they go into this other realm. I don't know. It feels very much like a Japanese anime teaser to me. You know, at the end of most anime episodes, they'll tease the next episode and I have no idea what the hell they're teasing, to be honest. I'm like, well, that's pretty crazy. Is that really the continuation of the story? All right, sure.
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This definitely feels like that. But it's cool just to see the cast of characters that they have. As we've seen in previous trailers, they're bringing Harley Quinn, Deadshot, King Shark, Peacemaker, Rick Flag. But this is the first time we get to see Diablo, from the first Suicide Squad movie, the one that controls fire. Although this time they're giving him a like Michael Jackson kind of vibe. Yeah, that's weird. I think it's kind of cool. Another thing that caught me off guard here is that it's almost like they're breaking the fourth wall.
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because you have the Joker talking about like, oh, this is just a really long intro to the show. And then Diablo later on is like, oh, they miscast us. It's kind of interesting. I wonder if they'll actually play into that. Do you think it's strange mixing the world of Suicide Squad with like this medieval fantasy setting? Yeah, and that's partially why I'm here for it. Like it's gonna be really, really interesting and something you probably haven't seen before, especially with these characters. By the end of the trailer, we see that Harley Quinn really just wants to return home.
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to her lover, the Joker, and she's definitely like the standout character of this trailer, of all the trailers really. It looks like she's the main character of the show. It looks like there's a lot of romantic elements at play, not just between the Joker and Harley Quinn, but I don't know, just the setting of the world that they venture into seems highly romanticized. Yeah, that's fair. And also very Shinto in a way, or at least like Eastern folklore with like giant boars and stuff like that.
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I really hope that this gets released in the US this year. I'm not holding my breath. Even if they don't localize it, I would still love to find a way to watch the Japanese subtitled version. But given the fact that this series is an anime, that brings us to our question of the week.
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What is your favorite anime? And why? And it doesn't have to be just Marvel or DC. I'm just curious. Yeah, record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure to answer before April 6th.
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That does it for all the news for this episode. Now let's go ahead and move on to the main event, where we find out who is going to win in a fight between the DC Comics version of Godzilla and the Marvel Comics version of Ultraman.
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Okay, so I'm not sure why our network's AI simulators have decided to glitch this April Fool's week and give us all Godzilla vs. Ultraman duels, but I'm here for it because the rights to Godzilla are partially owned by Legendary Pictures, who teams up with Warner Brothers to make some pretty awesome Godzilla movies. And they've even done some comics published by DC, also owned by Warner Brothers.
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Yeah, and actually Marvel Comics has produced three Ultraman miniseries, which have come out recently, I think starting in 2020. So Ultraman is a Marvel Comics character of sorts. What a coincidence! Who would have thought? Crazy! It's almost like we all got together and brainstormed which characters could work across all of our different podcasts in our network. Yeah, because there are video game versions of Godzilla and Ultraman. There are comic versions that we're going over. There are movie versions, obviously, and anime versions. So this is pretty exciting.
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Yeah, can't wait to find out who's gonna win between Godzilla and Ultraman, but to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient duel simulator, Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ and INK tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters' statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case...
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I randomize the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official Marvel power grid from which the DC characters' statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat categories are included such as range, damage potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character.
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Contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination of the winner.
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Thanks AJ9K! Before we run the simulations though, we like to break down each character's comic book histories and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out, beat for beat. And I believe it's my turn to go first with the DC character's backstory, the DC version of Godzilla, which is the Monsterverse version. Now in 1980 Tokyo, a young Ishiro Serizawa, played by Ken Watanabe on screen,
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met with his father Eiji, who confided in Ashiro about his secret job, beginning his tale in Hiroshima in 1945 after the atomic bombing. Amidst the devastation, Eiji, then a sailor in the Japanese Navy, searched for his wife and newborn son Ashiro, but was only able to find Ashiro. Eiji immediately afterward witnessed a mysterious and massive creature flying in the area.
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and suspected it had something to do with the bombing. While Ashiro was cared for by his grandparents, Eiji continued serving in the Japanese Navy. One year after the bombing, Eiji's naval unit was dispatched to aid an American vessel stranded on a small Pacific island. Encountering the same terrifying creature that Eiji saw a year prior, Eiji's unit and the American crew were all killed, save for Eiji and one American survivor.
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Lee Shaw. Impressed by Eiji's rescue, Shaw recruited him for the US government, leading Eiji to join Monarch, a secret military unit tasked with combating massive unidentified terrestrial organisms, or MUTOs for short. The MUTO creature, later dubbed a Shinobura by Eiji, continued annual attacks around the Pacific, each time drawing attention to another mythical creature dubbed Gojira.
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which only AEG ever glimpsed and believed existed. In 1953, Monarch discovered a giant Shinomura cell, proving the Mudo was actually an organized swarm of smaller creatures and allowed AEG to theorize about its connection to Gojira, believing both they and other Mudos hailed from a prehistoric time when the Earth was much more radioactive. The Shinomura destroyed Monarch's headquarters soon after.
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and Eiji, believing Gojira had protected them from the Shinomura prior, was tasked with fighting this Godzilla. The following year, on Matata Island, Eiji witnessed that there were actually two Shinomuras, prior to them merging in order to fight Godzilla, who had caught up to them. Using his atomic breath, Godzilla managed to re-divide the two monsters and kill one of them.
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who witnessed the tail end of the Mudo fight. Seeking to spare Godzilla from Monarch's plan to destroy him and the Shinomura with a nuclear bomb, Eiji confronted Monarch's head general and pleaded for a peaceful resolution, though he ultimately witnessed the bombing of both on Bikini Island, disguised as nuclear testing. The result was the confirmation of the Shinomura's death and the presumption of Godzilla's.
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he assured his son Ishiro that Godzilla was still alive. Eiji died one year later, and during his funeral, Ishiro was approached by Shaw to join Monarch. That story was told in the comic Godzilla Awakening, a prequel to the 2014 film Godzilla, which, along with Kong Skull Island, kicked off Warner Brothers and Legendary Pictures Monsterverse film series, which includes the events from Godzilla, King of Monsters,
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Godzilla vs. Kong, the TV series Monarch Legacy of Monsters, and the newly released film Godzilla Kong, The New Empire. Also in the canon are prequel comic series published not by DC, but by Legendary Comics, namely Godzilla Aftershock, Godzilla Dominion, and Godzilla Kong The Hunted. But recently, both Godzilla and Kong have also appeared in the pages of DC Comics in
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versus Godzilla versus Kong seven part miniseries of which only the first six issues have been released as of this recording. Spoiler warning if you haven't read it yet. In this alternate timeline tale the Legion of Doom unleashed Titano, a skyscraper sized gorilla in Metropolis as a distraction for them to invade the Forges of Solitude and steal the Mother Box stored there. When they accidentally set off an alarm
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the Justice League arrived and battled the Legion, during which time Toy Man stole the Dreamstone and the Mother Box was triggered, sending the Legion to Skull Island in the Monsterverse. After Toy Man was berated by Lex Luthor over his fascination with the Titan-designated Mudos that he observed while in a Monarch base, Toy Man made a wish using the Dreamstone that all of the monsters could come back with them to their universe.
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While proposing marriage to Lois Lane atop the Daily Planet, Clark Kent witnessed the emergence of Godzilla in Metropolis, and the two battled while other titans, a giant Cthulhu-like spider Cilla in Central City, the gigantic bat Kamizots in Gotham, and the colossal mammoth Behemoth on Themyscira also appear.
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His allies Hawk Girl Shazam, Supergirl, and Atom Smasher managed to bring the monster down together, causing Godzilla to flee into the ocean. Meanwhile, as heroes bring down the Titans and the other cities, Wonder Woman brought Green Arrow to Skull Island, which mysteriously appeared in the ocean as he'd volunteered to investigate. There, he found King Kong battling hordes of other monsters to prevent them from escaping the island.
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After being subdued by Supergirl, Conk helped Green Arrow fend off the League of Assassins, who also arrived on the island to investigate and managed to escape with one of the fallen Skullcrawler monsters. Superman, seemingly dead, was placed in a stasis pod on the Justice League satellite headquarters, while the League reviewed footage of the Legion's attack on the Fortress of Solitude to determine what caused the Titans to emerge.
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As Lex Luthor plotted a way to control the Titans to his end, the League traveled into the ocean to help Aquaman defend Atlantis from the giant sea monster Tiamat, only for Godzilla to come to their aid, just as Aquaman also unleashed the Kraken. Though Godzilla and the League defeated the Titan, the Kraken was able to help Aquaman chain Godzilla in the Kraken's own shackles within a massive abyss. With help from Lois Lane,
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The League learned about Monarch and was able to access their files concerning each of the Titans as they grouped and assessed all of the threats, including Les Luthor finding and taking control of Mecha-Godzilla, Ras Al Ghul bringing a Skullcrawler back to life in a Lazarus pit, and Gorilla Grodd manipulating King Kong by taking mental control over Supergirl. Behemoth, Scylla, and Tiamat joined Mecha-Godzilla and the Legion in Metropolis to battle the Justice League.
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alongside a giant Batman robot that Batman had built, a mini Batplane sidekick bot controlled by Nightwing and Damien, and the human Green Lantern Corps members who formed a giant green robot of their own named Robo. When Gorilla Grodd and his Gorilla City army joined the fray with Supergirl and King Kong under his control, he and Kong successfully destroyed Robo and he even managed to kill the Green Lantern Guy Gardener.
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Despite Beast Boy trying to even the odds by transforming into a King Kong sized gorilla, he was easily taken out by Supergirl, who was brought under control once the Justice League defeated Grodd, bringing Kong to the side of the good guys, only then for Russell Gould's Skullcrawler army to arrive. As hope seemed to vanish, Superman finally awoke from his stasis chamber and dove into the depths of the ocean to free Godzilla. And we'll see how this story concludes in issue number 7.
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due out on April 16th. Powers-wise, the Monsterverse version of Godzilla is 120 meters of brute strength, able to destroy skyscrapers and battleships with a wave of his tail, which is serrated all the way up his spine. He has sharp claws and teeth, and he's durable enough to survive a nearly direct hit from a 15-megaton hydrogen nuclear bomb, though it does take some time, sometimes years, for him to fully regenerate.
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depending on how heavy the damage is and how much radiation he's able to feed on. He's essentially immortal, having survived since prehistoric times. Speaking of radiation feeding, Godzilla can absorb radiation, allowing him to emit his signature radioactive energy beam, known as Atomic Breath. If overloaded with radiation, Godzilla is able to temporarily emit waves in all directions of destructive nuclear energy.
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His amphibious nature allows him to breathe both on land and underwater, and he has enhanced senses, able to hear and smell other monsters across continents and oceans. He's much faster in the water than he is on land, admittedly, and in the comics, he was susceptible to Shazam's magic lightning bolts. But besides that, the guy is basically indestructible, and Ultraman is going down. Uh, Ultraman eats kaiju like Godzilla for breakfast.
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I just want you to know that. Oh, really? Yeah. The king of monsters. I think not. How tall is Godzilla again? 120 meters. It's one of the tallest forms of Godzilla. Oh, wow. That's that's pretty big. All right. Well, let me go. Tell you how fucked you are by going through Ultraman's bio. OK. All right.
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This is the Marvel Comics version of Ultraman by the way. The character has been around since the 1950s, but he was recently rebooted in the Marvel Comics series in 2020. There have been three mini-series to come out including The Rise of Ultraman, The Trials of Ultraman, and The Mystery of the Ultra-7. There are going to be more produced later including a crossover between Ultraman and the Marvel Super Heroes universe, but let me go ahead and tell you about the character's backstory.
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a sentient alien race discovered the existence of kaiju, extra-dimensional monsters that feed off of negative emotions that were mysteriously invading reality from beyond the unknown. The aliens learned that the fear the kaiju caused would create a cyclical loop of negative emotions that would in turn bring more kaiju into the universe. To stop the monsters, the sentient alien race had to transcend beyond their normal state.
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evolving past negative emotions and becoming powerful beings of peace, compassion, and justice. They became Ultra, and used their privilege to travel the universe and defend other lifeforms against the Kaiju. In 1954, mankind became aware that Kaiju were invading Earth. An international joint effort was created to study and protect the world from the Kaiju, known as the United Science Patrol, or USP for short.
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Twelve years later, in 1966, a pilot for the USP named Dan Moroboshi was investigating an approaching anomaly from space that was actually a spaceship belonging to one of the Ultra Aliens who was coming to Earth to assist the planet against the Kaiju. The jet and the Ultra's ship collided, presumably killing each pilot. Though the wreckage from the alien ship was too advanced for the USP to understand,
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They were able to reverse engineer some of its technology for use in Earth's battle against the Kaiju. This included the invention of Keirei's, a weapon's energy that was subsequently used to fight Kaiju and shoot down any subsequent spaceships sent by the Ultra. Throughout the decades, the USP was able to use this technology to fend off the Kaiju and keep their existence largely a secret from the world at large. However, one day in 2010's Japan, a teenager named Shin Hayata,
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and his friend Kiki Fujii stumbled upon a kaiju monster who attacked them. They were rescued from being eaten by a USP agent who stepped in to save them. Managing to escape the incident and avoid having their memories erased, Shin and Kiki became obsessed with their knowledge of the kaiju and the USP, whom they refer to as the Ultimate Sneaky People. They used their knowledge over the years to find a way to track the kaiju via their energy signature, and eventually as young adults, they tried to join the USP.
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While Kiki passed their recruitment exam, Shin did not due to his inability to put aside his own convictions and follow orders. Kiki went to work studying the Keirei technology at the USP and was eventually pulled into the field alongside one Captain Muramatsu. The two were rescued from a kaiju ambush by Shin, who built his own Keirei blaster and followed them. Though he was admonished for his unsanctioned actions,
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Captain Muramasa trusted Shin enough to bring him on his and Kiki's next assignment, which was to investigate the crash site of a downed Ultra spaceship. The captain ordered Shin to fire on the Ultra emerging from the wreckage, which he did reluctantly. As the alien began dying, Shin ignored orders to stay back and sympathetically approached the being, making contact and merging with the Ultra in order to save its life. The merging process rendered Shin comatose for 19 hours.
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During that time, Kiki researched the 1966 crash incident to try and understand what was happening to Shin. This led her to the remote cabin of Dr. Yamamoto, a scientist who was discharged from the USP for arguing against the use of K-Ray technology. During their meeting, they were attacked by a Kaiju monster. Shin was able to find Kiki in time with help from Captain Muramata and transformed into Ultraman for the first time, defeating the creature.
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Transforming back, Shin and Kiki learned from Dr. Yamamoto that their K-rays were not disintegration beams as they previously thought, but rather teleportation energy that would transport the kaiju to an unstable pocket dimension called Limbo. With the vast number of kaiju that the USP had sent there over the decades, Limbo was starting to break down, threatening to release every monster ever sent there back on Earth. One such creature, a giant lizard named Bemular,
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did manage to break through the dimensional barrier. Shin had to transform back into Ultraman and defeated the creature by growing to his normal, giant size and fighting it. Now working with the USP, Shin and Kiki convinced the director that the best course of action to avoid all the kaiju in Limbo spilling onto Earth simultaneously was to slowly allow kaiju through the dimensional barrier in a controlled manner. This let Ultraman handle the kaiju crisis around the world methodically.
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as he took on creatures big and small, the largest ones typically hiding at the bottom of the ocean. As the general public became aware of the Kaiju's existence via Ultraman's battles, one former USP robotic scientist named Kato had a protégé that started developing Mecha Kaiju as a means to convince people that the USP were untrustworthy. Ultraman defeated the Mechas, though public distrust in the organization remained. This included Shin's father himself.
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resulting in Shin revealing to his dad that the kaiju were indeed real and that he was Ultraman. However, Shin's father did not trust his son with the aliens power, revealing that he blamed him for the death of his younger brother Jiro, who was killed accompanying Shin and Kiki on one of their kaiju hunts as teenagers. Ultraman sympathized with Shin stating that he had lost a brother too named Ultra-7, the Ultra who had crashed with the USP jet back in 1966. In that crash,
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the pilot Moroboshi and Ultra-7 were revealed to have been sent into Limbo where they merged. After spending decades fighting an endless battle against the Kaiju that were being sent there by the USP, Ultra-7 eventually became corrupted by the violence. When Ultra-7 arrived back on Earth through the weakened dimensional barrier, he went into a frenzy, attacking both Kaiju and Ultraman, who tried to reason with him and eventually subdued him.
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As it turned out, Ultra 7 first came to Earth in the 1960s as he had gained evidence that the reason Kaiju were appearing on the planet was due to an external influence, an evil presence that had embedded itself within the USP. This led to Shin, Kiki, Ultraman, Ultra 7, and Jack who was a new combined mecha version of Ultraman created by the roboticist Kato and piloted by his teenage children. They all formed a team called the Ultra Guard.
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to combat the USP's corruption. And that's Ultraman's backstory in Marvel. Powers-wise, Ultraman possesses enhanced physical abilities due to his transcendent alien nature. This includes increased strength in excess of 100 tons, flight speed up to Mach 5, increased durability, and increased agility. He can grow in size to a height of 40 meters or 131 feet tall. He also has a variety of energy weapons, including this Spacium Beam,
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which he can fire when forming his arms into the shape of a plus sign, and the Ultra Slash, which is an energy buzzsaw that he can throw out by moving his right arm in a tomahawk motion. He is a master in his judo-esque ultra fighting style, and can see across the electromagnetic spectrum. Lastly, Ultraman is highly intelligent and logical, able to adapt and process battle strategy on the fly, with help from the also intelligent Shin Hayata in his mind.
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His one weakness is that Shin can only remain in the Ultraman form for three minutes before he has to revert back to Shin due to the weakened state of the Ultra during their merging process. Wow, that's sad. That's pretty lame, yeah. But three minutes is all this guy needs. So you're telling me this guy goes up against shrimpy 40 meter tall Kaiju's? I mean, Ultraman can grow taller than that too. Oh yeah? Yeah. Are you sure? Well...
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He's never done that in the Marvel Comics version, so I can't say that with 100% certainty, but at the very least, he's going to be a third the height of Godzilla. This is going to be fun.
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But now that we've got the histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by simulations, not the speculation, but it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. AJ9K, what are the rules of our speculation?
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For the speculation, the contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a non-descript environment that will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then let's get into it. Godzilla and Ultraman meet! Woah! What's happening here? Wow! Alright, so like in a fiery explosion, the characters just teleported into our non-environment setting.
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where I guess the fight continues from yesterday's episode of the console combat podcast. So now that they're here, who's going to go first? Well, I got to say, you know, the DC Comics version of Godzilla is just so much taller than Ultraman. He's just going to straight up stomp Ultraman into the ground, just stepping on him. It's not going to be that easy, which shows how smart Godzilla is. Like Marvel's Ultraman might only be a third of the size of Godzilla, but he's still incredibly strong, so strong.
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that he's gonna catch Godzilla's foot as it tries to stomp on him, then he's gonna do this incredible judo slam, throwing the kaiju down onto the ground and creates this massive Godzilla-shaped crater. Okay, well you just paced Godzilla off now. You can see it in his emotive monster-verse face. So while he's on the ground, Godzilla's gonna sweep his long tail and smack it right into Ultraman, sending him flying toward the horizon. Okay, but like...
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Ultraman can fly, so yeah, he gets smacked to the horizon, but he just comes racing back into the battle at Mach 5 and just rockets his fist right into Godzilla's jaw at five times the speed of sound. And that's just gonna shatter all of Godzilla's teeth. So now we just have Toothless Godzilla, just gums. Uh, no, I'm gonna say Ultraman rocketed his fist right into Godzilla's bite. So Ultraman's trapped in Godzilla's jaws. And while Ultraman is locked there,
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That's when Godzilla's back dorsal plates began to glow blue, and he's just gonna fry Ultraman with his atomic breath point blank. No, I mean, that takes a while, right? So Godzilla never gets a chance. Because, like, Ultraman, yeah, his arm is trapped in Godzilla's teeth, but with his other arm, he's gonna send out an Ultra Slash, and that energy buzzsaw thing is just gonna rip right into Godzilla's neck, just severing his ability to use his atomic breath.
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about that it's definitely gonna hurt Godzilla you know and cause him to drop Ultraman and by drop I mean drop kick like Spartan style and that's when Godzilla is gonna let out this deafening roar that's just gonna stun Ultraman long enough to get body slammed by Godzilla like Godzilla is just gonna drop right on top of him and stay on top of him for you know whatever time remains in
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Yeah, Shin's time limit is probably coming up in his Ultraman form. So yeah, he has to do something drastic. So he summons all of his might to lift Godzilla's fat ass off of him, and then he's gonna handspring back onto his feet, and then he's gonna do his space-ium beam technique, you know, forming his forearms into a plus sign, which unleashes this devastating energy blast that is just gonna disintegrate Godzilla. Okay, but like in the time it takes Ultraman...
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to do this jutsu dance move with his arms, you know, that's the same amount of time it takes Godzilla to counter with a beam of his atomic breath, causing the two energies to collide and form a massive explosion. Whoa, whoa, what's happening? They're being sucked into another vortex. And they're gone. AJ 9K, status report, please. Reading anomaly energy signature. The combatants are traversing via interdimensional portal to the Max Destruction podcast.
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Estimated time of arrival tomorrow. Okay, well, I guess we'll figure out what happens with these two characters tomorrow on the Max Destruction podcast Just before the characters left though. I was able to glance at their stats and the comic versions are pretty impressive specimens Yeah, they definitely both have a lot going for each other They're both incredibly destructive characters able to level whole cities in their battles, but
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You know, Godzilla is just so insanely strong and durable. Although you can't discount Ultraman's agility and his fighting skill and his intellect. You know, Godzilla is a big dumb dumb comparatively. Yeah, but Godzilla did get the edge when it came to perception because he's able to sense monsters from an entire continent away. Who needs perception when you have speed? You know, Ultraman's faster than Godzilla. Who needs speed? We've got fucking atomic breath.
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It'll be interesting to see who wins when we finally get the results of this match on Thursday on the Senjoworld podcast. So if you guys want to know who wins, be sure to continue on with the DynaMic Podcast Network. Tomorrow you get to hear hosts Ken and Scotty talk about movie versions of the two characters fighting and on Thursday, host Zach is going to be breaking down really powerful anime versions of the characters. You do not want to miss it.
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And again, don't miss out on yesterday's episode on console combat where they talked about the video game versions of Godzilla and Ultraman. But that does it for this duel guys, let us know what you thought about our speculation by writing to us at dyna or by visiting us on Instagram, which you can find a link to on our show notes, or by visiting our website at dynamicduel.com. And on our site you can also find a link to our Patreon page, where you can join our dynamic2o tier and chat with us and fellow listeners.
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