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1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,972 This is a Dynamike Network podcast. 2 00:00:26,950 --> 00:00:32,212 a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority between Marvel and 3 00:00:32,252 --> 00:00:38,675 DC by comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations. I'm Johnny DC. And I'm 4 00:00:38,695 --> 00:00:45,078 his twin brother Marvelous Joe. And in this episode we are reviewing season 4 of the Max 5 00:00:45,138 --> 00:00:50,701 exclusive series, Harley Quinn. Watch all the episodes at the very last minute before writing 6 00:00:50,721 --> 00:00:56,518 this review. I loved this season, love the series overall. I feel like I keep waiting for a bad 7 00:00:56,558 --> 00:01:00,661 season of this animated series and it just hasn't happened yet. It's really well done. Yeah, 8 00:01:00,681 --> 00:01:04,524 we'll talk all about season four later on in this episode. Before that, we're going to break 9 00:01:04,564 --> 00:01:09,348 down the comic book movie news from the past week, of which there was the Doom Patrol season 10 00:01:09,429 --> 00:01:15,334 four B official trailer. It's a trailer for the last episodes of Doom Patrol. So this is 11 00:01:15,414 --> 00:01:21,282 a all Max episode. I'm still trying to figure out who Max is, but As always, we list our 12 00:01:21,322 --> 00:01:25,103 segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if you 13 00:01:25,123 --> 00:01:29,345 want to skip ahead to a particular topic. As our listeners may know, our dual simulator 14 00:01:29,405 --> 00:01:34,126 is so advanced that it's gained sentience and has named itself the artificial life form for 15 00:01:34,186 --> 00:01:41,569 running extensive duels just a rather very intelligent Simulator 9000 or Alfred Jarvis 9000. Here's 16 00:01:41,589 --> 00:01:47,890 a quick message for our listeners, so listen up! 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Johnny and Joe will help you develop 26 00:02:33,702 --> 00:02:40,264 your show, provide graphic support and consultation, and get you simulation results Pitch the twins 27 00:02:40,304 --> 00:02:45,148 your show via email at dynamic dual podcast at gmail.com or by reaching out to them on 28 00:02:45,208 --> 00:02:52,894 social media Check it out at patreon.com slash dynamic dual pip cheerio Thanks a j-9k and 29 00:02:52,914 --> 00:02:58,277 thanks to everyone who supports the podcast especially Abner Oteri whose birthday was this 30 00:02:58,318 --> 00:03:04,242 past week happy birthday Abner If I could get you any gift from the world of Marvel it would 31 00:03:04,262 --> 00:03:09,770 be a spider-man suit Specifically the one with the web armpits, you know since I know that 32 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:14,433 you're going skydiving for your birthday and you're probably gonna want like a backup squirrel 33 00:03:14,473 --> 00:03:18,756 suit type thing just in case things go south with the parachute. Not that I'm putting that 34 00:03:18,816 --> 00:03:25,601 out there. Geez. Well, in that case, I'll give you one better than that. And that is Kite 35 00:03:25,621 --> 00:03:32,505 Man's kite. The hang glider one. Hell yeah. Thanks so much for being a patron Abner and 36 00:03:32,645 --> 00:03:36,769 best of luck to you with the skydiving. Guys, be sure to tune into the other shows in the 37 00:03:36,829 --> 00:03:42,934 Dynamike podcast network. Right now Max Destruction is on a season hiatus. Season two will be coming 38 00:03:42,974 --> 00:03:47,017 out in a few weeks. Those guys are smart. They're actually putting out seasons and taking short 39 00:03:47,057 --> 00:03:54,063 breaks in between a batch of episodes. Unlike our dumbasses, why aren't we doing that? I 40 00:03:54,123 --> 00:03:58,030 don't know. But also definitely while they're on a break. Check out their back catalog of 41 00:03:58,091 --> 00:04:03,814 episodes. Also make sure to tune in to Senjoworld this Thursday to find out who would win between 42 00:04:03,935 --> 00:04:11,960 Esteth from Akame Kagil and Rukia Kuchiki from Bleach. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click 43 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:15,963 the link in our show notes to listen to all the shows in the Dynamite Podcast Network. 44 00:04:16,283 --> 00:04:22,627 But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to 45 00:04:22,647 --> 00:04:29,663 give out to fans. is a digital award we post on Instagram and in our email newsletter for 46 00:04:29,683 --> 00:04:34,145 the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question of the week. Last week's question 47 00:04:34,185 --> 00:04:40,107 was, do you plan on seeing Aquaman in the Lost Kingdom in theaters? Why or why not? And of 48 00:04:40,147 --> 00:04:44,569 course, this was coming off of the first trailer that we received for the film. The trailer 49 00:04:44,589 --> 00:04:49,791 was awesome, but I still know that there's a lot of bad taste regarding the film for a lot 50 00:04:49,811 --> 00:04:57,874 of people considering not only its status within the DCEU, but also Amber Heard. We got four 51 00:04:57,994 --> 00:05:03,476 answers. So let's break down the honorable mentions before revealing this week's no prize winner. 52 00:05:03,956 --> 00:05:10,918 Our first honorable mention goes to Travis Bailey, who said, Hey guys, Travis here. So my answer 53 00:05:10,958 --> 00:05:18,360 would have to be a cautious yes, while I am hyped to see Black Manta, given all the controversy 54 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:26,410 that's been happening through this movie, particularly the whole Amber stuff. for this movie similar 55 00:05:26,451 --> 00:05:32,215 to the whole Ezra Miller with Flash. So while I will give this movie a shot, I don't expect 56 00:05:32,495 --> 00:05:36,939 walking out of there saying it's gonna be a 10 out of 10 movie. This sounds like an entirely 57 00:05:37,019 --> 00:05:42,003 reasonable answer to me. For as amazing as the trailer was, I think people have to check their 58 00:05:42,043 --> 00:05:47,188 expectations because word on the street is that the movie is actually not that great and that 59 00:05:47,208 --> 00:05:51,271 there were people walking out of the theater. Jonathan had his own theory regarding that 60 00:05:51,431 --> 00:05:55,950 we discussed last week about why people were walking out, but. Who knows? I do know that 61 00:05:55,970 --> 00:06:00,634 a lot of people are still upset by Amber Heard's involvement in the film, even though it sounds 62 00:06:00,654 --> 00:06:06,318 like it's been diminished considerably. I, for one, have no problem separating art from the 63 00:06:06,398 --> 00:06:12,343 artist. I see the character more as Mera, not necessarily as Amber Heard. So I'm still looking 64 00:06:12,363 --> 00:06:16,966 forward to this movie and seeing it in theaters despite any of that actor behind the scenes 65 00:06:17,006 --> 00:06:23,006 controversy. But remember, Jonathan, you have to check your expectations. Like, it's gonna 66 00:06:23,026 --> 00:06:28,489 be good! You never do and you always get disappointed when you don't? That's not always true. Our 67 00:06:28,529 --> 00:06:34,893 next honorable mention goes to Cornelius Robinson, who said, Hey guys, this is Cornelius Robinson. 68 00:06:35,653 --> 00:06:42,837 And yes, I plan on seeing Aquaman 2 in theaters. Why? Because not only this is the final, final 69 00:06:43,157 --> 00:06:50,101 movie in the DCEU, but judging from the preview with the visual effects being presented, it's 70 00:06:50,161 --> 00:06:56,883 required. to go see at theaters. Yeah, the special effects look incredible, except for like one 71 00:06:56,923 --> 00:07:01,825 scene in the trailer where Aquaman was trying to punch a submarine or underwater vessel of 72 00:07:01,865 --> 00:07:07,047 some kind. I thought all of it looked top notch. Yeah, certainly better than the recent Flash 73 00:07:07,067 --> 00:07:12,649 movie, right? Which is kind of surprising how Warner Brothers allocates their assets, especially 74 00:07:12,689 --> 00:07:17,507 for movies that are a long time coming. Both the Flash and this Aquaman movie have been 75 00:07:17,527 --> 00:07:21,529 delayed multiple times. So it kind of made the special effects for the Flash a little bit 76 00:07:21,549 --> 00:07:26,311 confusing, but you're right, judging from the trailers, the visual effects for Aquaman look 77 00:07:26,351 --> 00:07:30,814 just as good as they were in the first film. Which kind of bothers me, because I thought 78 00:07:30,834 --> 00:07:35,516 that the special effects in the Flash trailers looked great. So my biggest fear is that they're 79 00:07:35,536 --> 00:07:39,819 just polishing up all the effects that are appearing in the trailers and not necessarily everything 80 00:07:39,859 --> 00:07:45,506 for the film. I guess we'll see. We'll see. Our final honorable mention goes to... Miggie 81 00:07:45,526 --> 00:07:50,210 Mathingian who said, Hey, what's up guys? This is Miggie and of course I'm going to see Aquaman 82 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:56,295 the Lost Kingdom in theaters. I'm a diehard DC fan and I see every DC movie in theaters 83 00:07:57,056 --> 00:08:02,161 and this trailer looks really good. So I'm actually pretty excited. Yep. So keep up the good work. 84 00:08:02,941 --> 00:08:07,986 Yeah. As I mentioned in our last episode, I was ready to write this film off just because 85 00:08:08,446 --> 00:08:14,090 of what's happening with the DCEU. And honestly, I'm not even sure. whether or not Aquaman 2 86 00:08:14,170 --> 00:08:20,013 counts as being a part of the DCEU or the DCU. Like maybe Jason Momoa is going to continue 87 00:08:20,053 --> 00:08:24,955 to be Aquaman and James Gunn's new universe. I guess we'll find out. But the trailer has 88 00:08:24,995 --> 00:08:30,257 definitely re-energized my excitement for the movie. All I can say, Miggy, is check your 89 00:08:30,317 --> 00:08:36,079 expectations. You know what, Miggy? Don't. You know what? Raise those expectations as high 90 00:08:36,119 --> 00:08:41,301 as you damn well please. Don't let anyone, especially a Marvel guy, tell you what you should or should 91 00:08:41,341 --> 00:08:46,853 not do. When Joseph tries to tell you that, your response should be, no Joseph, fuck you. 92 00:08:49,595 --> 00:08:53,377 I'm pretty sure I get told that on the Discord like every other day, so it doesn't even phase 93 00:08:53,417 --> 00:08:59,061 me anymore. That's true, we even have a GIF. That does it for all the honorable mentions, 94 00:08:59,081 --> 00:09:05,266 let's go ahead and move into the no prize winner, who is Peter Troll, who said. Hey, it's Peter 95 00:09:05,306 --> 00:09:11,822 Troll again. I do plan on actually going to see Aquaman, The Lost Kingdom. I think it's 96 00:09:11,842 --> 00:09:15,704 gonna be a really great movie based off of how it looks, just visually it's gonna be beautiful 97 00:09:16,304 --> 00:09:21,627 and it gave off Thor Ragnarok kind of vibes and I love Thor Ragnarok and I think it's gonna 98 00:09:21,647 --> 00:09:26,430 be similar and if it can be, I think it's going to be a great movie and I am so excited to 99 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:31,813 see it. Thanks guys. I'm sorry to tell you guys but the actual correct answer for this question 100 00:09:31,833 --> 00:09:36,976 of the week was no, I will not be seeing in theaters. That's what we were looking for. 101 00:09:37,477 --> 00:09:42,680 That was the expected answer. But I guess if you had to give the opposite answer of yes, 102 00:09:43,261 --> 00:09:49,186 at least Peter Troll threw in a reference to Thor Ragnarok. As a Marvel fan, that is why 103 00:09:49,306 --> 00:09:55,391 I give this answer the no prize win. Actually, the correct answer was, yes, I will be seeing 104 00:09:55,411 --> 00:10:03,177 this in theaters. In fact, multiple times, probably like five to 10 times. I really want this Aquaman 105 00:10:03,217 --> 00:10:08,001 sequel to make a billion dollars as much as the first movie made, because I'm really sick 106 00:10:08,021 --> 00:10:13,735 and tired. of these diminishing returns on not just DC films, but also Marvel. Yeah, superhero 107 00:10:13,755 --> 00:10:18,016 films in general have kind of seen a decline. You're right. And the real reason that Peter 108 00:10:18,056 --> 00:10:23,197 Troll won this week's No Prize actually was because of the Thor Ragnarok reference. A lot 109 00:10:23,237 --> 00:10:27,979 of people made references to Thor when the first Aquaman movie came out. I think, you know, 110 00:10:28,339 --> 00:10:34,260 long haired, bearded Jason Momoa is an easy comparison to make to a character like Thor 111 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:38,826 played by Chris Hemsworth. They also deal with these fantastical worlds as well. But Thor 112 00:10:38,866 --> 00:10:44,888 Ragnarok was a fantastic film that was beloved by most people. And I'm really hoping that 113 00:10:45,348 --> 00:10:51,031 Aquaman 2 captures that same kind of spirit as a sequel. Yeah, hopefully it doesn't pull 114 00:10:51,311 --> 00:10:58,194 Thor Love and Thunder. Yes, we want Thor Ragnarok, not Love and Thunder. Big difference. But congrats 115 00:10:58,234 --> 00:11:01,715 again to Peter Troll for winning this week's No Prize. If you the listener want a shot at 116 00:11:01,735 --> 00:11:05,637 winning your own No Prize, stay tuned to later on this episode when we'll be asking another 117 00:11:05,757 --> 00:11:09,281 Question of the Week. And now that that's done. On to the news! 118 00:11:14,926 --> 00:11:20,229 Okay, so a lot of the series that first began on the DC Universe platform back when that 119 00:11:20,249 --> 00:11:27,835 was a thing are now ending. We saw Titans recently wrap up its final season and Doom Patrol is 120 00:11:27,895 --> 00:11:33,079 also wrapping up its final season this year with season 4. They split up this final season 121 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:38,843 into two parts and the second half of it will be released starting October 12th. It's about 122 00:11:38,903 --> 00:11:43,670 time. I guess I actually haven't even started season 4 yet. Yeah, and I hope this trailer 123 00:11:43,690 --> 00:11:48,794 doesn't give away any spoilers because we do learn that they lose their longevity. I'm wondering 124 00:11:48,895 --> 00:11:53,999 if that's the first half cliffhanger that gets resolved in the second half. But either way, 125 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:59,083 I don't really mind knowing that the show is so off the wall that you could basically show 126 00:11:59,203 --> 00:12:03,166 anything within these trailers and I wouldn't be surprised. But I'll always be intrigued 127 00:12:03,266 --> 00:12:06,689 because that's just the nature of the show. They throw everything at you. Everything is 128 00:12:06,709 --> 00:12:11,933 just so bizarre, but it's a great ride nonetheless. It's been really hard for me to be sentimental. 129 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:18,312 about the ending of this series because I haven't started its final season. This trailer, though, 130 00:12:18,612 --> 00:12:24,735 made me realize just how close to the end we are for what's been a fantastic series so far. 131 00:12:25,115 --> 00:12:28,936 At least you got four seasons of this, though. You know, you look at a show like Daredevil 132 00:12:29,377 --> 00:12:34,659 that only got three seasons, which was also a fantastic show. And you got to be grateful. 133 00:12:34,979 --> 00:12:39,021 I mean, that's a bad example, because isn't Daredevil getting a fourth season on Disney 134 00:12:39,041 --> 00:12:46,789 Plus? Damn right it is. You damn right it is. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. No, but I loved Doom 135 00:12:46,829 --> 00:12:51,071 Patrol. I've been super surprised by it each and every season. And I can't wait to start 136 00:12:51,131 --> 00:12:55,414 this season because it looks like more of the same heartfelt, comedic, bonkers storylines 137 00:12:55,634 --> 00:13:00,897 that the Doom Patrol is known for. I'm glad to see that Timothy Dutton is returning, if 138 00:13:00,977 --> 00:13:06,160 at least for a bit, as the chief, Niles Calder, in this season, because he was, I think, sorely 139 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,679 missed from season three. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And it looks like a number of characters are 140 00:13:10,719 --> 00:13:15,063 returning. You know, we're getting General Immortus again. Looks like the brain and Monsieur Mala 141 00:13:15,083 --> 00:13:21,269 are making a return. Garguax, Mr. Nobody, totally miss that guy. I can't wait to see all of them 142 00:13:21,309 --> 00:13:26,373 return. I think those are just flashbacks, if I'm not mistaken. Are they? They could be, 143 00:13:26,433 --> 00:13:30,557 honestly. But then why show them in the trailer if they're not going to show up in the season? 144 00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:34,781 Because it's kind of like a retrospective of everything they've gone through leading into 145 00:13:34,821 --> 00:13:40,347 the series finale. Possibly, but it also does look like a time machine is involved in this 146 00:13:40,487 --> 00:13:44,728 second half of the season in some way And you know the fact that they're even name-dropping 147 00:13:44,768 --> 00:13:49,970 them maybe enough for me. I guess we'll see how those episodes play out I wasn't thrilled 148 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:55,171 with how the Titans series ended I'm really hoping that Doom Patrol has a more satisfying 149 00:13:55,291 --> 00:14:00,033 conclusion to everything Well, I think the Titan show had a decent resolution in the final episode 150 00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:04,234 when they all had dinner together, you know and said goodbye But yeah, I'm looking for 151 00:14:04,274 --> 00:14:09,057 something a little bit more substantial. Just because the Doom Patrol show is more substantial 152 00:14:09,217 --> 00:14:14,401 than most other superhero fare out there. Absolutely. If you guys aren't watching Doom Patrol, this 153 00:14:14,461 --> 00:14:19,384 is your last chance to get caught up. So we could all experience the final episode together 154 00:14:19,944 --> 00:14:24,047 in this beautiful moment. Hopefully, we'll see how beautiful it turns out to be. It looks 155 00:14:24,067 --> 00:14:29,719 like the final episode is going to drop on November 9th of this year. Yeah, we'll be reviewing 156 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:34,306 it, looking forward to it. Even as a Marvel fan, I do think the show is criminally underrated. 157 00:14:34,406 --> 00:14:38,152 I hope a lot of people check it out for its resolution. But that brings us to our question 158 00:14:38,192 --> 00:14:38,613 of the week. 159 00:14:43,074 --> 00:14:50,778 What has been the most underrated Marvel or DC TV show in your opinion and why? Yeah, what 160 00:14:50,798 --> 00:14:55,141 is the show that you think a lot of people didn't check out but should have based on how good 161 00:14:55,181 --> 00:14:59,924 it was? Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in 162 00:14:59,964 --> 00:15:03,926 the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. 163 00:15:04,326 --> 00:15:08,249 Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case 164 00:15:08,289 --> 00:15:13,156 we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic 165 00:15:13,196 --> 00:15:18,807 Duel No prize that we'll post to Instagram and our email newsletter. Be sure to answer before 166 00:15:19,147 --> 00:15:20,089 September 30th. 167 00:15:28,054 --> 00:15:31,821 That does it for all the news for this episode, now let's move on to the main event, where 168 00:15:31,902 --> 00:15:37,373 we review Season 4 of the Max-exclusive animated series, Harley Quinn. 169 00:15:53,294 --> 00:15:59,136 Harley Quinn is a Max-exclusive animated series that stars Kelly Cuoco as the title character 170 00:15:59,476 --> 00:16:06,219 and is showrun in season 4 by Sarah Peters, as the show's former head writers, Justin Halpern 171 00:16:06,319 --> 00:16:12,081 and Patrick Schumacher, left the series to write the upcoming Kite Man spinoff series also for 172 00:16:12,121 --> 00:16:17,764 Max. You'd never really have known, however, because the show maintains its trademark balance 173 00:16:17,965 --> 00:16:23,768 of irreverence and lewd humor with heartfelt themes and top-tier comedic voice talent. If 174 00:16:23,788 --> 00:16:28,911 you're not watching Harley Quinn by now, I'm guessing you've probably decided that its style 175 00:16:28,951 --> 00:16:34,575 of humor is really not your thing, but I assure you, the show is much more than the dick jokes 176 00:16:34,615 --> 00:16:39,838 they put into the marketing for the series, which also makes my eyes roll. But season to 177 00:16:39,878 --> 00:16:45,580 season, Harley Quinn has been an absolute riot and joy to watch. So I encourage you to do 178 00:16:45,641 --> 00:16:50,663 so if you haven't already before listening to the spoiler review. Yeah, the show is one of 179 00:16:50,683 --> 00:16:57,146 the more consistent series that I've ever come across. You know, almost every other superhero 180 00:16:57,186 --> 00:17:02,368 television series has like one season that dips a little bit in quality. But season to season 181 00:17:02,588 --> 00:17:07,411 with Harley Quinn has been impressively top notch. Yeah, I don't know why season by season 182 00:17:07,471 --> 00:17:13,374 I keep getting surprised by how good the writing for this is, but it is fantastic and I laugh 183 00:17:13,534 --> 00:17:19,117 every time. Yeah, I think you get reminded each season just how good of a handle the writers 184 00:17:19,157 --> 00:17:24,580 have not only on this incredible character they developed in this world's version of Harley 185 00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:29,603 Quinn, but also, you know, the grander world building that they've done. Yeah, this world 186 00:17:29,623 --> 00:17:34,125 they've built in this alternate universe for Harley Quinn is very well realized. I'll agree 187 00:17:34,145 --> 00:17:39,627 with that. This is only our second season that we've reviewed on this podcast, not counting 188 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:44,848 the Valentine's Day special episode that they released early this year. I honestly don't 189 00:17:44,888 --> 00:17:50,250 have much to say about this season that I haven't already said in the Season 3 review, but I 190 00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:55,671 think that's a testament to the show's mostly consistent nature. I will say that this season 191 00:17:55,731 --> 00:18:01,813 differs from past seasons in a number of subtle ways, resulting in a somewhat diminished return, 192 00:18:01,993 --> 00:18:07,120 but not by much. Yeah, I think, you know, one of the strengths of the show is that it never 193 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,323 fails to build on the character of Harley Quinn. You know, she's gone tremendous character growth 194 00:18:12,363 --> 00:18:17,066 over the course of four seasons. You know, season one was about her discovering that she can 195 00:18:17,106 --> 00:18:21,569 truly be somebody apart from the Joker. Season two was her discovering that she was in love 196 00:18:21,589 --> 00:18:26,113 with her best friend, Poison Ivy. Season three was about her discovering that she had a conscience 197 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:31,396 and a heroic side to her. Season four almost felt more like an addendum to season three 198 00:18:31,456 --> 00:18:36,627 where like, I guess her big lesson was that... She's kind of neutral. Yeah, she has a conscience, 199 00:18:36,687 --> 00:18:42,711 but also she doesn't want to be a hero, right? So that type of revelation isn't quite as profound 200 00:18:42,811 --> 00:18:47,234 necessarily. So the season overall had less of those profound moments, even though it was 201 00:18:47,254 --> 00:18:52,257 still enjoyable. Yeah, I'll touch more on the themes later, but I agree. You know, last season 202 00:18:52,297 --> 00:18:57,701 we saw Harley's heroic inclination begin to develop. So in this season, she's a fledgling 203 00:18:57,741 --> 00:19:03,356 member of the Bat family. and with Ivy's foray into executive management of the world's largest 204 00:19:03,436 --> 00:19:08,300 villain organization, the Legion of Doom, it wasn't surprising that the two of them would 205 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:13,863 spend more time apart than in past seasons and that heartfelt romantic nature of the show 206 00:19:13,883 --> 00:19:18,947 would take a dip. But, you know, over the past couple of seasons, and especially with the 207 00:19:19,007 --> 00:19:24,010 Valentine's Day special, I don't mind a break from the romance. And the conflict brought 208 00:19:24,050 --> 00:19:28,693 about by Harley and Ivy's new professions kept the pace running smooth for the most part. 209 00:19:29,214 --> 00:19:32,936 Yeah, I mean, it was a great setup. I wasn't sure that they could deliver on the setup of 210 00:19:33,056 --> 00:19:37,978 Ivy running the Legion of Doom and Harley joining the Bat family. But for the most part, I do 211 00:19:38,018 --> 00:19:42,741 think that they landed the concept. Yeah, I agree. I do have to say I feel like the show 212 00:19:42,801 --> 00:19:48,144 has definitely lost a lot of the charm brought on by its ensemble cast, particularly this 213 00:19:48,184 --> 00:19:52,886 season, you know, with the absence of Kite Man and why it felt like a diminished role for 214 00:19:52,946 --> 00:19:58,469 King Shark. I do miss some of the banter and comedic hijinks between Harley's old crew. 215 00:19:59,030 --> 00:20:05,133 Though I will admit we got just the right amount of Clayface and Bane this season. Nora carried 216 00:20:05,173 --> 00:20:09,856 a lot of that side story weight much better than I thought she would. Nora was freaking 217 00:20:09,956 --> 00:20:14,998 hilarious. She was such a minor character before this, but like the fact that they kind of elevated 218 00:20:15,038 --> 00:20:20,842 her to side character status was brilliant because she's freaking hilarious. Who's the actress 219 00:20:20,862 --> 00:20:23,883 that does her voice? It kept like driving me crazy that I could recognize it, but couldn't 220 00:20:23,903 --> 00:20:28,566 pin it down. Rachel Dratch from SNL. Oh, that's right. OK. Alright, that makes sense. It was 221 00:20:28,606 --> 00:20:33,228 hilarious. I love that she did the voice. She did a fantastic job. I thought we were going 222 00:20:33,268 --> 00:20:37,630 to get a lot more out of the Bat family this season, but of course, you know, the lack of 223 00:20:37,690 --> 00:20:43,272 side characters allowed the writers to further dive into the two leads of Harley and Ivy, 224 00:20:43,332 --> 00:20:48,575 which was great. Now each of the two leads, Harley and Ivy, got their own separate cast 225 00:20:48,615 --> 00:20:53,857 of side characters this season, with each also struggling to achieve acceptance and maintain 226 00:20:53,877 --> 00:20:59,327 those relationships. Interestingly, I think by the end, the overall theme of the season 227 00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:04,089 that both Harley and Ivy learned was that they shouldn't depend on acceptance from others 228 00:21:04,209 --> 00:21:08,971 if they're unable to accept themselves. I thought it was an interesting theme like very Thelma 229 00:21:08,991 --> 00:21:13,453 and Louise, us against the world kind of approach and I'm curious to see where it leads with 230 00:21:13,473 --> 00:21:18,636 Harley and Ivy having burned a lot of bridges this season. You know, they formed the Gotham 231 00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:23,714 City Sirens with Catwoman and Batgirl at the very end, but I have no idea. what that team 232 00:21:23,734 --> 00:21:28,776 is going to do. Like, are they good? Are they bad? Who knows? But I'm excited to see. Stan, 233 00:21:28,936 --> 00:21:33,338 you know, that's a great testament to the quality of the show is that even four seasons out, 234 00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:37,620 they're still finding new ways to approach these characters. Like, I'm super excited with the 235 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,942 Gotham City Sirens. I'm really excited to see what happens with Nightwing and the whole Lazarus 236 00:21:41,982 --> 00:21:46,163 pit situation. Because that was one of the threads that I was hoping that they wouldn't abandon 237 00:21:46,183 --> 00:21:50,225 because it felt like they were just gonna drop the whole Nightwing thing. Like, she got away 238 00:21:50,245 --> 00:21:53,967 with it, you know? But I'm really glad they didn't do that. And it looks like one of the 239 00:21:54,008 --> 00:21:58,811 major plot threads for next season is going to be Harley Quinn's comeuppance for her actions 240 00:21:59,011 --> 00:22:03,274 during this season. Right. Yeah, I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, a lot of 241 00:22:03,314 --> 00:22:07,938 the conflict comes next season from Harley's guilt over killing Nightwing, you know, with 242 00:22:08,058 --> 00:22:12,561 Batgirl on her team. And maybe eventually Batgirl learns and forms a rival team, the Birds of 243 00:22:12,601 --> 00:22:17,545 Prey, with Black Canary and Huntress or something like that. That would be cool, I think. That 244 00:22:17,565 --> 00:22:22,887 would be cool. Yeah. The Nightwing death was spoiled for me, unfortunately, before I started 245 00:22:22,927 --> 00:22:26,969 watching the series. Again, for these reviews, I like to watch as much of the show in one 246 00:22:26,989 --> 00:22:32,171 piece as I can, so I kind of waited to the last minute to even start this season. But like 247 00:22:32,211 --> 00:22:35,772 you, I'm really glad with the way they resolved that in the end, because I was about to be 248 00:22:35,872 --> 00:22:41,815 pissed off. If anything, it's almost like this season could have done with a few more episodes, 249 00:22:41,835 --> 00:22:46,217 because I think most Harley Quinn seasons are like 13 episodes, but this one was only 10. 250 00:22:46,817 --> 00:22:51,674 Season three was also 10 episodes. Well, I guess not counting the Valentine's Day special. Right, 251 00:22:51,694 --> 00:22:55,976 yeah, I saw that they counted the Valentine's Day special as episode 11 of season three, 252 00:22:56,096 --> 00:23:01,637 which was strange, I thought. One major component missing from this season that I felt was sorely 253 00:23:01,697 --> 00:23:06,879 lacking was the introspective psychological analysis we get of certain characters that 254 00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:12,681 happens at least once per season. Last season we got to go into Bruce Wayne's mind, which 255 00:23:12,741 --> 00:23:18,531 ended up being my favorite episode of the series so far. Prior to that, we delved into The Joker, 256 00:23:18,831 --> 00:23:24,636 Ivy, and Harley, but nothing this season. For a show starring a former psychologist, I thought 257 00:23:24,656 --> 00:23:29,259 they would keep that aspect of the show running, and I definitely thought the sleepwalking storyline 258 00:23:29,479 --> 00:23:34,683 this season was going to lead to something like that, but that ended on an unsatisfying note, 259 00:23:34,763 --> 00:23:39,762 I'd say, with Harley's random ass potato clone. That's true. Yeah, that was definitely the 260 00:23:39,802 --> 00:23:44,145 most unsatisfying aspect about the season was that they introduced this element that they 261 00:23:44,245 --> 00:23:49,548 never really followed through on. I don't remember Harley sleepwalking at any point during the 262 00:23:49,568 --> 00:23:55,531 whole series, and I think they tried to rationalize her disorder as due to her inability to cope 263 00:23:55,551 --> 00:24:00,134 with the loss of her villainous side. But it didn't ring true for me. Totally. I totally 264 00:24:00,154 --> 00:24:04,916 get it. Let's talk more about that and Harley Quinn in our character breakdown. Now, Harley 265 00:24:04,936 --> 00:24:10,461 Quinn was voiced by Kelly Cuoco. who by now portrays my favorite version of Harley Quinn 266 00:24:10,822 --> 00:24:16,088 in any medium. I've said this before, but I would love it if James Gunn used Kelly Cuoco 267 00:24:16,248 --> 00:24:21,794 and Lake Bell to portray their live action counterparts as part of the new DC University's building, 268 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:27,006 but I'm not holding my breath. They would be great. For sure. This season, Harley struggles 269 00:24:27,046 --> 00:24:32,488 with her foray into superheroism alongside the Bat Family while Bruce Wayne is incarcerated. 270 00:24:32,648 --> 00:24:37,750 Unable to get a flow with the team, whether due to their no killing rule, her poor eyesight, 271 00:24:37,811 --> 00:24:42,953 or stubbornness against training under Alfred, Harley also had to face Nightwing's distrust 272 00:24:43,193 --> 00:24:48,495 and the relationship ethics of going to Ivy with her problems. This all compounds into 273 00:24:48,555 --> 00:24:53,437 bouts of sleepwalking where Harley fulfills her destructive desires, which leads up to 274 00:24:53,477 --> 00:24:59,376 her killing Nightwing. Unable to deal with that guilt, Harley is forced to face the fact that 275 00:24:59,397 --> 00:25:05,621 she can't cut it as a hero, and decides to embrace both her good and evil natures. I think the 276 00:25:05,661 --> 00:25:10,464 sleepwalking was brought about entirely by stress. Like you mentioned, because she was unable 277 00:25:10,505 --> 00:25:15,628 to fulfill her villainous tendencies like were expressed by the whole Hargrit alter ego that 278 00:25:15,648 --> 00:25:20,292 she developed when they went to Vegas. If anything, she probably should have maintained that for 279 00:25:20,332 --> 00:25:25,588 her own mental health, right? Right. Yeah. Lots of superheroes have secret identities, and 280 00:25:25,768 --> 00:25:29,611 the fact that her alter ego was a villain I think would have been kind of an interesting 281 00:25:29,631 --> 00:25:33,395 thing to explore further. Yeah, I think they could have easily gotten a few more episodes 282 00:25:33,415 --> 00:25:37,538 out of this season. I would have definitely loved to have seen a return of Hargret. Moving 283 00:25:37,658 --> 00:25:44,164 on to Poison Ivy, she was voiced by Lake Bell to perfection. I'd say this is also my favorite 284 00:25:44,224 --> 00:25:49,074 version of Poison Ivy now. who I feel like DC has had a hard time balancing in the comics 285 00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:55,236 as both a sexual femme fatale for Batman and a queer icon that subverts gender expectations. 286 00:25:55,256 --> 00:26:00,458 Ivy's arc this season was very similar to Harley's in that she struggled in this new environment 287 00:26:00,498 --> 00:26:05,320 around new people, with her being the new CEO of the Legion of Doom, you know, working for 288 00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:09,841 the undercutting and mansplaining Glex Luthor while trying to push her socially conscious 289 00:26:09,981 --> 00:26:15,484 evil initiative. Between keeping employees happy while navigating the high class yet cutthroat 290 00:26:15,524 --> 00:26:20,567 world of female business elites, or championing your image and brand on social media while 291 00:26:20,587 --> 00:26:25,949 mentoring the next generation of aspiring and talented women, it's a lot to balance. And 292 00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:31,833 despite Ivy's competence, she ultimately comes up short, learning that by trying to please 293 00:26:31,973 --> 00:26:37,636 everyone, she ends up pleasing no one, especially herself, as she ends up embarrassed in her 294 00:26:37,676 --> 00:26:42,474 public confrontation with Lex Luthor at the end of the season. Through her failure, she 295 00:26:42,514 --> 00:26:48,116 learns that her success should be on her own terms, and manages at the very end to get revenge 296 00:26:48,216 --> 00:26:53,618 on all of her enemies, making her, in my opinion, the most interesting character this season. 297 00:26:54,058 --> 00:27:00,040 I was just about to say that. I do think that between the two main arcs of Ivy's Legion of 298 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:06,239 Doom situation and Harley joining the Bat Family, I prefer Poison Ivy's story, largely because 299 00:27:06,479 --> 00:27:11,321 I feel like Harley's time with the Bat family was dismissive. Like they had a dismissive 300 00:27:11,361 --> 00:27:16,363 attitude toward Harley and it never quite felt like she ever became a part of what they had, 301 00:27:16,523 --> 00:27:21,566 you know? Well, I mean, the Legion of Doom was just as dismissive to Poison Ivy, but I think 302 00:27:21,746 --> 00:27:26,948 Ivy did more about it. Like she was less whiny, she was more active, she was more proactive, 303 00:27:27,028 --> 00:27:32,119 you know, teaming up and taking advice with people like Talia. Yeah, and I felt like overall 304 00:27:32,139 --> 00:27:35,823 we just got more screen time with Ivy for some reason. I'm not sure if that's the case, but 305 00:27:35,863 --> 00:27:40,187 it definitely felt like that. Yeah, you might be right. There's, of course, a ton more characters 306 00:27:40,227 --> 00:27:45,032 to talk about. But one character I wanted us to focus on was the villain this season, Lex 307 00:27:45,112 --> 00:27:50,962 Luthor. He is voiced by Giancarlo Esposito, who kills it as the character. Like every time 308 00:27:51,022 --> 00:27:55,823 I hear his voice, I just remember how brilliant and menacing he was on Breaking Bad. And I 309 00:27:55,843 --> 00:28:01,405 just have to admire the fact that the casting director landed an actor of Giancarlo Esposito's 310 00:28:01,425 --> 00:28:07,707 caliber in an animated show with dick jokes. I'm glad that I largely forget who the voice 311 00:28:07,727 --> 00:28:13,029 talent is for these seasons and just being reminded that it is Giancarlo Esposito makes it so much 312 00:28:13,069 --> 00:28:18,080 better in hindsight. Yeah, I would love to see Giancarlo play a live action Lex Luther in 313 00:28:18,140 --> 00:28:23,785 like a Kingdom Come Elseworlds project. That would be incredible for sure. Or even in James 314 00:28:23,825 --> 00:28:29,189 Gunn's new DCU. He might be a little old for that, but maybe not. Maybe I'm wrong. Lex definitely 315 00:28:29,229 --> 00:28:34,193 had a larger role this season than I thought he was going to have because, you know, in 316 00:28:34,253 --> 00:28:38,276 previous seasons, he's been relegated to kind of a figurehead. Kind of it was very much a 317 00:28:38,416 --> 00:28:42,891 supporting role as opposed to this season. I just loved everything that they chose to do 318 00:28:42,911 --> 00:28:47,555 with this character. Like he was like injecting himself with like Falcon DNA, you know, to 319 00:28:47,595 --> 00:28:51,998 try to get his hair to grow back and lifted his cheekbones and those chicken breast caffeine 320 00:28:52,018 --> 00:28:56,461 plants. Right. Everything was so hilarious. It was great. And it made total sense for the 321 00:28:56,481 --> 00:29:01,345 character because for the most part, Lex Luthor has always been trying to compete with the 322 00:29:01,625 --> 00:29:06,809 superior specimen that is Superman. Right. So it totally makes sense that he's kind of like. 323 00:29:07,222 --> 00:29:11,305 doing all this shit to his body, like bathing in baby seal blood and stuff like that to try 324 00:29:11,345 --> 00:29:16,130 to achieve that perfection. Right, yeah I thought it totally made sense for the character. You 325 00:29:16,150 --> 00:29:21,074 know, Lex Luthor in this season he makes Ivy the CEO of the Legion of Doom not only for 326 00:29:21,114 --> 00:29:26,399 the public optics of having a woman-led legion, but also because it allowed him to focus on 327 00:29:26,439 --> 00:29:32,505 his master plan of destroying and replacing Superman, which I thought was a pretty decent 328 00:29:32,585 --> 00:29:38,695 plan. Of course, his unveiling of a moon-based laser that could increase Earth's ozone layer 329 00:29:38,955 --> 00:29:44,437 to repair holes in it was mocked as stealing Ivy's socially conscious evil idea, but it 330 00:29:44,497 --> 00:29:49,578 proved to be an effective and new way to bring down Superman by blocking out the sun. Like 331 00:29:49,598 --> 00:29:54,760 you mentioned, watching Lex throughout the season preparing to supplant Superman by perfecting 332 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,582 his physical body through caftoning and regrowing his hair was not only fairly humorous, But 333 00:30:00,622 --> 00:30:05,405 it resulted in what I thought was a satisfying evil master plan for the series overall and 334 00:30:05,445 --> 00:30:10,089 definitely led to higher stakes than what I thought was just going to be cheekbone implants 335 00:30:10,129 --> 00:30:16,794 for vanity's sake. Yeah. When Harley and Ivy realized that, wait, was this all just a plot 336 00:30:16,874 --> 00:30:23,299 to get at Superman? I was legitimately impressed at how good of a plan it was. Yeah. But let's 337 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,301 talk more about that plan in our story highlights. 338 00:30:33,858 --> 00:30:39,903 Episode 1 was titled Gotham's Hottest Hotties. In it, Poison Ivy, the new CEO of the Legion 339 00:30:39,923 --> 00:30:45,207 of Doom, struggles to gain her employees' respect on her first day on the job. She approves all 340 00:30:45,247 --> 00:30:50,211 of their evil plans in an attempt to win them over, but this backfires when Bane blows up 341 00:30:50,251 --> 00:30:55,636 an oil rig, causing chemical pollution in the sea, which Ivy had originally wanted to prevent. 342 00:30:56,237 --> 00:31:01,221 After some encouragement from Nora Freeze and a fight with Snowflame, Ivy stands up to the 343 00:31:01,241 --> 00:31:07,206 Legionnaires. and hires Nora as her assistant. Meanwhile, a serial killer is targeting Gotham's 344 00:31:07,246 --> 00:31:12,431 hottest people, which Harley investigates with the Bat Family and eventually realizes that 345 00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:17,555 Professor Pig is the killer. Pig is trying to surgically create the hottest human specimen 346 00:31:17,816 --> 00:31:23,861 by using his victim's best body parts. Using Nightwing's perfect ass's bait, the Bat Family 347 00:31:23,921 --> 00:31:29,994 captures Pig, but Harley goes too far and kills him, to her teammate's horror. Meanwhile, King 348 00:31:30,034 --> 00:31:36,116 Shark's wife Tabitha is expecting babies and Talia Al Ghul decides to travel to Gotham after 349 00:31:36,156 --> 00:31:41,577 hearing about Wayne Enterprises financial problems. It was kind of cool to see how the Bat Family 350 00:31:41,617 --> 00:31:46,799 took on a Bat Rogue in Professor Peg. I wish we got a little bit more of that this season 351 00:31:46,899 --> 00:31:52,000 for sure, but I also thought the stuff between the Legion of Doom employees and Poison Ivy 352 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,942 this episode was great. It was a great first episode to the season overall. There were a 353 00:31:57,022 --> 00:32:01,463 lot of moments that had me laughing my ass off during this first episode. I love the part 354 00:32:01,543 --> 00:32:06,384 when the Legion of Doom roundtable was like telling Poison Ivy get out of the way because 355 00:32:06,404 --> 00:32:11,146 they want to see who the new CEO is. And then she was like, I am the new CEO. And then Mattello 356 00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:17,428 was like, oh, fuck, the rumors were true. It was so good. And then later on, he was like, 357 00:32:17,488 --> 00:32:21,009 so in a hissy fit. Yeah. And then later on, he was like, if we wanted to be bust around 358 00:32:21,049 --> 00:32:27,195 by a woman, we'd get girlfriends. I like the part where they're like, she probably slept 359 00:32:27,235 --> 00:32:33,700 with Lux to get the position. I hope she gets pregnant. It was so bizarre. So hilarious though. 360 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:40,104 The scene where Harley Quinn stages a nude photo shoot with Nightwing to draw Professor Pig 361 00:32:40,164 --> 00:32:45,508 was freaking hilarious. Like all of the direction that she was sending his way was top-notch 362 00:32:45,528 --> 00:32:49,150 writing for sure. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in the writer's room 363 00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:53,793 while they were coming up with those ideas for how Nightwing should pose. It was just great. 364 00:32:54,334 --> 00:32:59,376 Oh man, I bet the writers room is just non-stop them cracking up. Yeah, holy cow. How could 365 00:32:59,416 --> 00:33:07,181 it not be? Episode 2 was titled B.I.T.C.H. Ivy attends a networking event for evil businesswomen 366 00:33:07,361 --> 00:33:13,464 and meets Talia, the conservator of Wayne Enterprises while Bruce Wayne is imprisoned. Talia advises 367 00:33:13,664 --> 00:33:19,027 Ivy on her plan to legally replace Gotham's male trees with female trees, which unknown 368 00:33:19,047 --> 00:33:24,995 to Talia would ruin Wayne Enterprises' pharmaceuticals division. and Ivy and Talia develop a mutual 369 00:33:25,035 --> 00:33:30,017 respect for each other's intellect and villainy. As punishment for breaking the Bat Family's 370 00:33:30,137 --> 00:33:36,461 no-killing rule, Harley is demoted to Alfred's assistant. Alfred teaches her a technique called 371 00:33:36,861 --> 00:33:44,265 BITCH. Breathe, identify the problem, T-break, consider your options, handle it, which she 372 00:33:44,445 --> 00:33:49,628 uses to stop Alfred from robbing a bank. The Bat Family is impressed by Harley's actions 373 00:33:49,988 --> 00:33:55,983 and gives her own bat outfit. Alfred is arrested and sent to Arkham Asylum for rehabilitation. 374 00:33:56,323 --> 00:34:02,586 I gotta say, I'm gonna start using the bitch method in real life. It's not bad advice. I 375 00:34:02,606 --> 00:34:07,067 don't know what use the tea break has, but I'm sure, you know, helps with lowering your blood 376 00:34:07,107 --> 00:34:11,969 pressure, just calming down and stuff. Teas just delicious, you know, you need a reason 377 00:34:12,009 --> 00:34:17,132 for it. The whole Alfred arc here just had me dying. Like the character was so hilarious. 378 00:34:17,253 --> 00:34:20,815 This whole episode, when it turned out that he was trying to get arrested so that he could 379 00:34:20,855 --> 00:34:25,378 be back with his master Wayne again, I thought it was hilarious. And even later on during 380 00:34:25,418 --> 00:34:30,422 the course of the season when he became like this gourmet hooch wine creator was just brilliant, 381 00:34:30,482 --> 00:34:36,646 I think, for the character. Yeah, white color wine. Yeah. One of my favorite jokes for this 382 00:34:36,686 --> 00:34:41,829 episode was when Harley finally got her bat costume for stopping Alfred. And Robin was 383 00:34:41,869 --> 00:34:46,768 like, snitches get stitches, but he was talking about the stitch work on her costume, right? 384 00:34:46,788 --> 00:34:50,910 I thought that was pretty good. Right. Yeah. I don't think Robin was as funny this season 385 00:34:50,970 --> 00:34:55,513 as he has been in past seasons, like where he had like a crush on Harley and stuff like that. 386 00:34:55,973 --> 00:34:59,515 His dynamic with his mom was pretty good. I thought that was funny. Yeah, that was good. 387 00:34:59,595 --> 00:35:04,858 It was great to see Talia this season for sure. Moving on to episode three that was titled 388 00:35:05,018 --> 00:35:11,181 Icons Only. Harley and Ivy go to Las Vegas for a vacation, hoping to see Clayface's new show. 389 00:35:11,554 --> 00:35:16,516 though all of the tickets are sold out, and Harley realizes that her hero reputation has 390 00:35:16,576 --> 00:35:21,678 made her an outcast in the villain community. After seeing that Bruce Wayne can be a DJ in 391 00:35:21,718 --> 00:35:27,580 prison while still maintaining his public identity, she decides to create a fake identity for herself 392 00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:33,723 as well, calling herself Hargrit. She enjoys her time with Ivy as Hargrit until Clayface 393 00:35:33,783 --> 00:35:39,165 foils their attempt to steal tickets to a show as revenge for Ivy not keeping in touch with 394 00:35:39,205 --> 00:35:44,301 him. This results in a fight between the two, which is interrupted by Tabitha giving birth 395 00:35:44,341 --> 00:35:50,305 to nine shark babies. Tabitha agrees to co-parent one of the babies with King Shark, who gets 396 00:35:50,345 --> 00:35:56,330 the rest, and chooses Harley and Ivy to be the children's godparents. Afterward, Ivy admits 397 00:35:56,370 --> 00:36:00,553 that she was worried that she and Harley would have nothing in common anymore because of their 398 00:36:00,593 --> 00:36:05,877 different jobs. Harley then announces that she is moving in with the Bat family to learn more 399 00:36:05,917 --> 00:36:11,517 about being a hero. Ivy sad to hear this, but she supports Harley's decision. This episode 400 00:36:11,557 --> 00:36:18,022 kind of felt like a break from the normal storyline, and I think it was there really just to maintain 401 00:36:18,062 --> 00:36:23,366 the relationship of Harley and Ivy, because for a large portion of this season, the two 402 00:36:23,427 --> 00:36:28,130 really aren't together kind of tackling life side by side. Right, well it's kind of a shame 403 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:32,614 though that they introduced one of the season's more compelling concepts in the alter ego thing, 404 00:36:32,634 --> 00:36:37,634 considering that this was kind of like a side story episode. I think you're right. in terms 405 00:36:37,795 --> 00:36:42,865 of the level of clay face that was in this season. I think he was getting a little grating in 406 00:36:42,905 --> 00:36:47,213 previous seasons and how much he was included. Right. Plus after the guy falls in love with 407 00:36:47,253 --> 00:36:53,127 his own ass, like, where do you go from there? That's right. I'm wondering how they go from 408 00:36:53,207 --> 00:36:58,751 that, though, to having him be like this super successful mega celebrity star with his own 409 00:36:58,771 --> 00:37:03,914 review show in Vegas. Well, he became like a superstar with the whole Batman movie at the 410 00:37:03,934 --> 00:37:08,117 end of season three, where he was pretending to be Billy Bob Thornton. So I could see how 411 00:37:08,157 --> 00:37:13,021 he could segue that into a successful Las Vegas career. I did love the fight between him and 412 00:37:13,061 --> 00:37:17,444 Harley. I think it just really showed how much of a powerhouse those two characters are. That 413 00:37:17,464 --> 00:37:23,933 was some awesome action this season. Yeah, speaking of fights, one of the amenities at the Lexor 414 00:37:23,953 --> 00:37:28,176 Hotel for the villains was that they could bet on gladiatorial matches, which I thought was 415 00:37:28,216 --> 00:37:32,779 pretty interesting. I think the first fight was between Doll Man and Ragdoll, which was 416 00:37:32,859 --> 00:37:36,903 perfect. I thought that was great. It just reminded me of Dynamic Duel for some reason. I was like, 417 00:37:37,123 --> 00:37:42,487 oh yeah, this is cool. I just love that was a thing though at Lexor. Instead of the Luxor, 418 00:37:42,707 --> 00:37:49,740 hilarious hilarity. the first person to come back from a business conference without chlamydia, 419 00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:54,923 which has to be a record for like the longest episode title of a television show ever. Hyvi 420 00:37:54,943 --> 00:38:00,566 attends Malcon, a supervillain convention on the moon, where she expects to give a presentation, 421 00:38:00,626 --> 00:38:05,870 but is instead asked to give an opening speech for Luther's presentation. Following Talia's 422 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:10,973 advice, she decides to network with other villains and impresses them with her ideas, including 423 00:38:11,053 --> 00:38:16,289 Steppenwolf. As Luther gives his presentation, he realizes that everyone is more interested 424 00:38:16,369 --> 00:38:21,694 in Ivy than him, which angers him and causes him to destroy his lunar base and call off 425 00:38:21,714 --> 00:38:27,319 the convention. Meanwhile, due to Talia cutting the Bat Family's budget, Harley teaches them 426 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:32,503 how to fight without weapons and gadgets and rents out Wayne Manor to Scandinavian tourists 427 00:38:32,543 --> 00:38:38,028 to make more money. When the Scandinavians try to rob the manor, the Bat Family uses Harley's 428 00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:43,940 teachings to stop them. After Harley sells some of Ivy's panties online to exploit her newfound 429 00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:49,103 fame, the Bat Family is able to buy new equipment. As they check the Batcave's security footage, 430 00:38:49,363 --> 00:38:53,966 they miss the footage of Harley sleepwalking and wrecking havoc in the manor during the 431 00:38:54,026 --> 00:38:59,909 night. Which is a clue to her whole arc a little too little too late. Perhaps I didn't love 432 00:38:59,929 --> 00:39:04,432 the Bat Family arc for this episode. I think this is where Poison Ivy started to become 433 00:39:04,452 --> 00:39:08,226 a little bit more interesting to me for this season. I love- how she kind of just took over 434 00:39:08,366 --> 00:39:12,867 the convention on the moon, knocking people like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg off their 435 00:39:12,887 --> 00:39:17,268 villain panels, which I thought was hilarious. Yeah, I agree. Loved the Poison Ivy stuff, 436 00:39:17,308 --> 00:39:21,970 loved everything about it in this episode. It didn't make sense to me in the Harley Quinn 437 00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:27,291 portion why she was training the Bat Family how to fight without weapons and gadgets because 438 00:39:27,391 --> 00:39:32,333 they already fucking know how to do that. It's the Bat Family, as if Batman would not train 439 00:39:32,353 --> 00:39:37,078 them how to fight without weapons. That's an absurd notion to me. Yeah, I think that's just 440 00:39:37,098 --> 00:39:42,220 part of the gag was that they had become too reliant on their bat gear. But yeah, the idea 441 00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:47,222 of Harley Quinn training them in hand-to-hand combat felt very off. And the whole storyline 442 00:39:47,442 --> 00:39:52,765 seemed very random, like Scandinavian tourists. I mean, the show is kind of humorous in its 443 00:39:52,805 --> 00:39:58,147 randomness, but that just seemed like okay. Yeah, I was expecting them to be like name 444 00:39:58,327 --> 00:40:02,489 super villains or something like that. But no, they were just really just Scandinavian Airbnb 445 00:40:02,529 --> 00:40:08,719 guests who were high on drugs. Episode five was titled Getting Ice Stick. Don't wait up. 446 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,242 I honestly, when I saw the title for the episode, I was going in a completely different direction. 447 00:40:16,282 --> 00:40:19,664 I was thinking Dick Grayson or something like that, you know, I think the bad family was 448 00:40:19,704 --> 00:40:24,366 off getting ice or something. But when I realized what the title was in reference to, I was laughing 449 00:40:24,406 --> 00:40:30,268 my ass off. That is funny. Now, Harley Quinn has eye surgery performed by Supergirl. I'm 450 00:40:30,288 --> 00:40:35,078 not sure why to improve her vision for night missions. She calls Barbara Gordon to pick 451 00:40:35,098 --> 00:40:40,941 her up, but is instead met by Barbara's roommate, Alyssa, who found Barbara's phone. Nightwing 452 00:40:40,981 --> 00:40:46,084 tells Harley that Barbara has gone missing, but refuses to let Harley help find her because 453 00:40:46,124 --> 00:40:52,308 he doesn't trust her. Meanwhile, Lex Luthor assigns his PR team, the Johns, to manage Poison 454 00:40:52,388 --> 00:40:57,771 Ivy's career. They convince Ivy to increase her social media activity to gain more followers. 455 00:40:58,191 --> 00:41:04,234 As a result, Ivy neglects her relationships with Harley and her mentees, Tara, Volkanna, 456 00:41:04,494 --> 00:41:09,317 and Te Faye Holland. Harley finds Barbara in the mountains and goes there with Alyssa to 457 00:41:09,357 --> 00:41:13,800 save her. Harley discovers that Barbara is in the mountains and goes there with Alyssa to 458 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,803 save her. They learn that Barbara went there to bring her mother home from the family cabin 459 00:41:19,163 --> 00:41:24,366 after Jim Gordon rushed back to Gotham to accept a security job at the Legion of Doom headquarters. 460 00:41:24,666 --> 00:41:29,269 Harley laments that she gave up everything from her previous life to join the Bat Family, but 461 00:41:29,329 --> 00:41:34,355 still doesn't feel accepted. Barbara assures her that it takes time just before they find 462 00:41:34,456 --> 00:41:39,218 Nightwing's dead body, which shocks them both. And again, I wasn't shocked here because I 463 00:41:39,318 --> 00:41:43,001 knew Nightwing was going to die. I guess it just kind of threw me in the way that they 464 00:41:43,281 --> 00:41:46,843 just tacked that on at the end of the episode. It seemed like something very big and I was 465 00:41:46,863 --> 00:41:52,042 like, wait, what? Yeah, I was shocked for sure. I did not see that coming. Overall, I think 466 00:41:52,062 --> 00:41:56,944 this is my least favorite episode though, largely because I really did not like whatever joke 467 00:41:56,964 --> 00:42:00,925 they were doing with the Johns. I just don't think it landed for me and they kept repeating 468 00:42:00,985 --> 00:42:05,667 it. And I didn't like that Nightwing died. Yeah, I could see how the Johns kind of overstayed 469 00:42:05,687 --> 00:42:11,129 their welcome. I thought it was great at first though. I also did like Ivy's group of mentees, 470 00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:14,763 how they were all like elemental in nature. I thought that was a really cool team. Yeah, 471 00:42:14,783 --> 00:42:18,865 that was fun. I think actually the biggest gem that came out of this episode, everything else 472 00:42:18,905 --> 00:42:24,670 aside, was the annual boys night out with the cold themed superheroes like Captain Cold and 473 00:42:24,730 --> 00:42:29,293 Isocal. Yeah. I thought that was hilarious. And they were just like playing in the snow, 474 00:42:29,333 --> 00:42:34,056 having a snowball fight and their underwear. I agree. That was probably my favorite part 475 00:42:34,096 --> 00:42:39,680 of the episode, too. But moving on to the next episode, episode six was titled Metamorphosis 476 00:42:40,321 --> 00:42:45,159 after Nightwing's funeral. Harley, Batgirl, and Robin go their separate ways to avoid being 477 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:50,842 killed. Harley learns about her sleepwalking from Frank after he witnesses it when she returns 478 00:42:50,862 --> 00:42:55,485 to Catwoman's apartment. Lucius discovers that Nightwing's tracker pinpoints the Legion of 479 00:42:55,525 --> 00:43:00,528 Doom's headquarters, leading Barbara to believe that Ivy is behind the murder, which Harley 480 00:43:00,568 --> 00:43:06,231 refuses to believe. The tracker is later found by Gordon in a parking garage but is no longer 481 00:43:06,291 --> 00:43:06,811 traceable. 482 00:43:11,734 --> 00:43:17,197 so she decides to take them down with help from Terra, Volkana, and Te Fae. She acts out in 483 00:43:17,257 --> 00:43:22,360 public at a children's beauty pageant she's hosting, purposely angering the Jons, who then 484 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:28,623 morph into one giant person and try to destroy Ivy. Ivy and her mentees use their combined 485 00:43:28,663 --> 00:43:34,387 abilities to defeat and kill the Jons. The Joker later arrives at the Legion of Doom, announcing 486 00:43:34,427 --> 00:43:39,429 his return to villainy and claiming that he is Nightwing's killer, much to Barbara's anger. 487 00:43:40,002 --> 00:43:44,665 While the Legionnaires cheer on the Joker, a shocked Harley notices an alternate version 488 00:43:44,705 --> 00:43:50,709 of herself winking at her from the crowd, leading her to believe she's going insane. So is the 489 00:43:50,749 --> 00:43:56,493 assumption here that Harley took Nightwing's tracker to the Legion of Doom, I guess just 490 00:43:56,533 --> 00:44:01,096 hanging around? I think the assumption here is that Nightwing was tracking Poison Ivy, 491 00:44:01,557 --> 00:44:06,040 which he did while Poison Ivy was on that one talk show. But then why would he have left 492 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,130 the tracker there and then go up to the mountains? because he was also following Carly. Okay. 493 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:14,894 All right. That makes more sense now. That's just a guess. I'm not entirely sure. It's a 494 00:44:14,934 --> 00:44:19,797 little confusing. Again, I don't really care for anything they did on the show in reference 495 00:44:19,897 --> 00:44:25,461 to the whole sleepwalking and sleep eviling habit. Yeah, the fact that her doppelganger 496 00:44:25,541 --> 00:44:31,165 was created from one of her hairs and a potato was kind of strange. Random. So unbelievably 497 00:44:31,205 --> 00:44:35,968 random and not a good payoff at all, I would say, if they were trying to make me believe 498 00:44:36,008 --> 00:44:40,159 that Harley Quinn was going insane. I thought the show very much dropped the ball in that 499 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,621 regard, because at no point did I think that Harley was going insane. Even when she saw 500 00:44:44,661 --> 00:44:48,703 the doppelganger of herself, I was like, I don't know, Clayface, there's so many people that 501 00:44:48,723 --> 00:44:55,207 can impersonate Harley Quinn. Episode 7 was titled the most culturally impactful film franchise 502 00:44:55,527 --> 00:45:03,331 of all time, which we learn is apparently Avatar. Well, Batgirl exposes the Joker for lying about 503 00:45:03,371 --> 00:45:10,752 killing Nightwing on Dr. Psycho's podcast, Harley and Ivy use a time sphere to visit their future 504 00:45:10,792 --> 00:45:17,277 selves for advice. They arrive in a post-apocalyptic Gotham in 2048, where they learn a mysterious 505 00:45:17,337 --> 00:45:24,523 force destroyed the city in 2024, and an adult Robin rules as a tyrant. Harley and Ivy meet 506 00:45:24,603 --> 00:45:29,927 their future daughter, Naityri, who betrays them to Robin. Naityri reveals that Harley 507 00:45:29,947 --> 00:45:34,371 and Ivy were bad parents and a bad couple due to their lack of communication. 508 00:45:37,694 --> 00:45:42,236 and escape with the help of one of King Shark's adult children. They accidentally return to 509 00:45:42,256 --> 00:45:47,459 the present six days after they first traveled to the past, only to learn that in their absence, 510 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:53,202 the apocalypse began a year early. This episode felt sort of like the Las Vegas episode to 511 00:45:53,242 --> 00:45:58,045 me in that it's kind of fillery. I'm not sure they needed to take this whole approach that 512 00:45:58,065 --> 00:46:01,967 they did with them traveling to the future, considering it never really played a part later 513 00:46:02,047 --> 00:46:06,689 on this season. No, it was just for the gags, I think, but I thought the gags were pretty 514 00:46:06,729 --> 00:46:11,531 funny. I'm wondering how Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn could have a kid. I'm assuming through 515 00:46:11,691 --> 00:46:16,293 cloning, I guess, put their DNA together and then come out with a kid that way. But the 516 00:46:16,413 --> 00:46:22,095 concept of Naetiria, I thought, was pretty solid and I love their reaction to their daughter. 517 00:46:22,276 --> 00:46:26,097 Yeah, the funniest part of this episode to me was Robin, the way he was just like controlling 518 00:46:26,137 --> 00:46:29,939 everything from a video game. I thought that was great. And he turned out to be this like 519 00:46:30,059 --> 00:46:33,960 bearded guy who couldn't even stand anymore because he's so used to sitting in his chair. 520 00:46:37,238 --> 00:46:42,079 While Harley and Ivy were in the future, Bane travels to Italy to fix the Legion of Doom's 521 00:46:42,139 --> 00:46:47,721 pasta maker for Nora. After discovering that the model is discontinued, he learns how to 522 00:46:47,761 --> 00:46:53,202 make pasta from an elderly and abusive Italian woman. Luther plans to thicken the ozone layer 523 00:46:53,242 --> 00:46:58,784 with a laser from his moon base, but needs Volcano's powers to activate volcanoes and expand Earth's 524 00:46:58,924 --> 00:47:04,385 ozone for his plan to work. Nora refuses to let Luther abuse his power while Ivy is away, 525 00:47:04,930 --> 00:47:10,072 so Luthor traps her and the others in the Legion of Doom's headquarters. They escape by blowing 526 00:47:10,152 --> 00:47:14,795 up the headquarters, which gives Luthor the ozone range he needs to use his laser to block 527 00:47:14,835 --> 00:47:21,398 the sun, causing chaos. Harley and Ivy realize upon their return that Luthor's goal was to 528 00:47:21,438 --> 00:47:27,422 weaken Superman. I do love how they managed to take what was kind of a really dumb element 529 00:47:27,462 --> 00:47:32,745 from Season 3 with Bane and the whole pasta maker thing, and turn it into a pretty awesome 530 00:47:32,845 --> 00:47:38,276 gag for this season. You know what? I think we both complained about Bane's story arc from 531 00:47:38,317 --> 00:47:44,461 season three, but love how they just doubled down on it by actually making him go to Italy 532 00:47:44,682 --> 00:47:49,726 and learn how to make pasta. It was actually hilarious. It was great. It was super funny. 533 00:47:49,786 --> 00:47:54,349 I thought the whole grandmother stabbing him and then like teaching him how to cook and 534 00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:58,653 then being like, you're going to stay here forever. It was such a great arc and great storyline 535 00:47:58,673 --> 00:48:03,584 this episode. Who would have thought when the pasta maker subplot was introduced at the very 536 00:48:03,604 --> 00:48:08,426 end of season two that it would have such a great payoff in season four? No one would have 537 00:48:08,446 --> 00:48:15,350 guessed that. Nah. I also loved all the stuff with Nora this episode, like between her and 538 00:48:15,550 --> 00:48:20,453 Captain Cold. I thought it was just hilarious how they're just trying to get together and 539 00:48:20,493 --> 00:48:25,416 all this other stuff keeps happening. Rachel Trash again was just phenomenal as the character 540 00:48:25,436 --> 00:48:32,260 of Nora. Moving on to episode nine. It was titled Potato-Based Cloning Incident. Harley and Ivy 541 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,263 discover that Harley has a clone, unknowingly created by Gordon, with the Legion of Doom's 542 00:48:37,303 --> 00:48:43,207 cloning device slash microwave. Potato Harley suggests Ivy use her Lexcorp board membership 543 00:48:43,347 --> 00:48:48,990 to vote Luther out so they can legally turn off his ozone laser. To secure the last vote, 544 00:48:49,210 --> 00:48:55,630 Ivy organizes a golf tournament to sway an influential board member, but accidentally kills him. Nonetheless, 545 00:48:55,790 --> 00:49:01,493 his wife votes against Lex Luthor because Harley had previously saved her life, allowing Ivy 546 00:49:01,553 --> 00:49:07,515 to shut down Luthor's machine. Meanwhile, Potato Harley reveals that she witnessed Harley killing 547 00:49:07,575 --> 00:49:12,758 Nightwing during one of her sleepwalking episodes, which Dr. Psycho confirms by entering Harley's 548 00:49:12,838 --> 00:49:18,320 memory. Though with Flash's help with time travel, Harley prevents Psycho from remembering and 549 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:24,307 exposing her as the killer on his podcast. Potato Harley attempts to arrest the real Harley along 550 00:49:24,327 --> 00:49:29,329 with other people whom she considers criminals for minor infractions, leading Harley to fight 551 00:49:29,429 --> 00:49:34,912 and destroy her clone. Ashamed of her actions and realizing her failure as a hero, Harley 552 00:49:34,952 --> 00:49:39,974 announces to Batgirl she is quitting the Bat family before the Joker shoots Batgirl in the 553 00:49:40,034 --> 00:49:45,877 spine in order to rebuild his reputation. I do love the different ways sometimes this show 554 00:49:45,977 --> 00:49:50,879 will reinterpret comic canon like the Joker shooting Batgirl. I thought this was a perfect 555 00:49:50,959 --> 00:49:54,780 and shocking moment to do that. Yeah, for sure. When they did that, I was like, oh, this is 556 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,701 the killing joke. And it made sense, like, why he would do that because his reputation was 557 00:49:58,741 --> 00:50:03,062 destroyed. So he was like, I got to take out a member of the Bat family somehow. Yeah. This 558 00:50:03,102 --> 00:50:08,124 episode was really the pinnacle of Harley's arc. It ended a little bit early, which I thought 559 00:50:08,144 --> 00:50:12,965 was interesting, when she realized that she really wasn't cut out to be a hero and was 560 00:50:13,005 --> 00:50:19,028 too guilty to continue either way. Again, I don't love Potato Harley and I don't really 561 00:50:19,268 --> 00:50:24,851 love the fact that Harley learned she was able to be a hero because of Potato Harley. I think 562 00:50:24,871 --> 00:50:28,874 there was a different way the writers could have done it. It's just so unbelievably random 563 00:50:28,974 --> 00:50:33,096 that they went this direction. I did think it was funny that her first line after Potato 564 00:50:33,116 --> 00:50:39,420 Harley died was, she killed Nightwing. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to see the repercussions 565 00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:44,826 of her line to Batgirl in the next season. Episode 10 was titled Killer's Block, and this episode 566 00:50:44,846 --> 00:50:50,468 was actually dedicated to Arlene Sorkin, who was the inspiration for Harley Quinn due to 567 00:50:50,528 --> 00:50:55,470 a Harley Quinn performance that she gave while she was cast on the Days of Our Lives. I thought 568 00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:59,491 that was pretty cool that they did that. In the episode, Harley is conflicted when she 569 00:50:59,531 --> 00:51:04,752 can't break herself to kill the Joker for paralyzing Batgirl, and she later joins Poison Ivy on 570 00:51:04,792 --> 00:51:10,050 the moon for Lex Luthor's birthday party, which Ivy plans to ruin. They learn however that 571 00:51:10,110 --> 00:51:15,953 Luthor has captured Superman and weakened him, creating a suit that mimics his powers. After 572 00:51:15,993 --> 00:51:21,616 getting into a brawl with Luthor, Ivy is easily defeated by him. Embarrassed and realizing 573 00:51:21,636 --> 00:51:26,699 that her business partners are not interested in making a change, Ivy quits her job and teams 574 00:51:26,759 --> 00:51:32,162 up with Harley and Batgirl to use Luthor's laser to destroy their businesses, blowing up the 575 00:51:32,222 --> 00:51:38,474 earth bases of LexCorp, Wayne Enterprises, Veronica Kale's company, and the Legion of Doom. Just 576 00:51:38,514 --> 00:51:43,878 before the moon cracks in half from the overloaded laser, Steppenwolf sends Luther to Apocalypse 577 00:51:43,958 --> 00:51:49,482 as punishment for harming Ivy, and Harley saves Superman, having finally accepted both her 578 00:51:49,522 --> 00:51:54,786 good and bad qualities. Three days later, with Superman regaining his powers restoring the 579 00:51:54,846 --> 00:52:00,310 moon, Bruce Wayne is released from prison and becomes Batman once again. Harley and Ivy then 580 00:52:00,370 --> 00:52:06,730 form a new team with Barbara Gordon and Catwoman called the Gotham City After discovering that 581 00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:11,814 Nightwing's grave has been robbed, they decide that they will investigate the case, unaware 582 00:52:11,894 --> 00:52:17,638 that Talia Al Ghul has taken the corpse and have resurrected Nightwing in a Lazarus pit. 583 00:52:17,698 --> 00:52:22,941 I thought this was a solid final episode. I like how the show adapted the idea of Lex's 584 00:52:23,001 --> 00:52:30,394 battle suit into a means of specifically recreating Superman's powers. Yeah, that's actually from 585 00:52:30,614 --> 00:52:34,917 the comics. You know, there was a time when Lex Luthor attempted to be a more superior 586 00:52:35,017 --> 00:52:39,360 Superman and showed up, even like stole his logo and everything like that. So, yeah, this 587 00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:45,083 was an interesting interpretation of that. I agree. I loved this episode. I loved the fight 588 00:52:45,103 --> 00:52:50,927 scene between Ivy and Lex. I love how Ivy destroyed like all of those different companies on Earth. 589 00:52:51,347 --> 00:52:55,189 And I love how Harley saved Superman. I thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah, it kind 590 00:52:55,229 --> 00:53:00,163 of felt like. Poison Ivy's arc was going to be anti-climactic, just losing to Lex in the 591 00:53:00,183 --> 00:53:04,205 way that she did, but there was something very cathartic and satisfying when she just said 592 00:53:04,285 --> 00:53:07,927 fuck it and started blowing up all of her enemies' shit. I mean it's not the most clever way to 593 00:53:07,967 --> 00:53:13,049 culminate an arc, but there's something still satisfying about how she did it. I thought 594 00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:17,691 it was clever, actually. I didn't see it coming, at least. But you know, Ivy's smart enough 595 00:53:17,711 --> 00:53:23,133 to be able to retool a device like that to be a weapon. Again, I'm excited for the Gotham 596 00:53:23,153 --> 00:53:27,503 City Sirens. I wasn't sure that they were ever going to go in that direction with the show 597 00:53:28,024 --> 00:53:32,206 and it looks like they are. Season five is not going to come soon enough, I can tell you that. 598 00:53:32,666 --> 00:53:35,968 Yeah, it's gonna be great. I initially thought they were going the birds of prey route, so 599 00:53:36,048 --> 00:53:39,950 I thought it was funny when, you know, they kind of subverted that with the Gotham City 600 00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:43,012 sirens. I was like, okay, that makes sense because that's a little bit more true considering the 601 00:53:43,032 --> 00:53:46,854 team members. But then Barbara Gordon brought up, or we could call ourselves the birds of 602 00:53:46,874 --> 00:53:50,876 prey. And they're like, no, like we have nothing to do with birds. Like, why would we do that? 603 00:53:51,356 --> 00:53:57,417 None of us are even bird themed. Yeah. That was funny though, because to my knowledge, 604 00:53:57,777 --> 00:54:01,681 I think all of, if not most of those characters were actually also part of the Birds of Prey 605 00:54:01,701 --> 00:54:07,826 in the comics too. I don't think Poison Ivy was, but yes, Catwoman and Harley Quinn, I 606 00:54:07,846 --> 00:54:12,450 believe, have both been members. In addition to Batgirl. Right, right. She founded the team. 607 00:54:12,830 --> 00:54:16,913 But that does it for all the episodes. I thought it ended on a really high note. I don't think 608 00:54:16,934 --> 00:54:22,418 it was as strong as past seasons. I don't think it was as heartfelt as prior seasons. but the 609 00:54:22,458 --> 00:54:28,082 series' fantastic voice talent and irreverent raunchy humor just continues to make this DC's 610 00:54:28,402 --> 00:54:33,166 greatest guilty pleasure. I'm giving it three and a half stars, just one notch down from 611 00:54:33,226 --> 00:54:39,530 season three, but still a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, I agree. I think it was an 612 00:54:39,571 --> 00:54:45,455 enjoyable season, maybe just a small notch below previous entries for the series, but still 613 00:54:45,475 --> 00:54:51,390 a solid entry for DC television, and hopefully we get more. Yeah, I'm absolutely looking forward 614 00:54:51,431 --> 00:54:55,593 to more. I feel like if the show got canceled, there would be like a sore lack of dick jokes 615 00:54:55,813 --> 00:55:00,535 just out there in the world. The show kind of fills that kind of like dick joke niche. 100 616 00:55:00,816 --> 00:55:05,498 percent. I definitely agree with that. It would definitely be missed if and when it ever gets 617 00:55:05,538 --> 00:55:09,941 canceled, which I think the show is pretty popular, so hopefully it doesn't. But that does it for 618 00:55:09,961 --> 00:55:14,963 this review. Let us know what you thought about season four by writing to us at dynamicduelpodcast.gmail.com 619 00:55:16,284 --> 00:55:21,531 or by visiting us on Instagram or X. You can find links to all of our accounts by checking 620 00:55:21,611 --> 00:55:27,115 out our show notes or visiting our website at dynamicduel.com. And on our site, you can also 621 00:55:27,135 --> 00:55:31,259 find a link to our Patreon page where you can join our Dynamic Duo tier and chat with us 622 00:55:31,279 --> 00:55:35,702 and fellow listeners. Our Fantastic Four tier, which gets you bonus content each month. Our 623 00:55:35,882 --> 00:55:40,426 X-Force tier that makes you an executive producer of this podcast. 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Yeah, I'm excited for Halloween this year. It's gonna 632 00:56:23,713 --> 00:56:28,795 be awesome. So look forward to next week's episode. That does it for this episode though, we want 633 00:56:28,815 --> 00:56:33,539 to give a big thanks to our executive producers Ken Johnson, John Strausky, Zachary Hepburn, 634 00:56:33,659 --> 00:56:39,063 Dustin Balcom, Miggy Mathengian, Brandon Estregard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yeaton, Nick Ibbonto, 635 00:56:39,243 --> 00:56:45,228 Austin Wasilewski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott Camacho, and Adam Spies for helping make this podcast 636 00:56:45,288 --> 00:56:49,752 possible. We'll talk to you guys next week. Up up and away, true believers.
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