Livewire vs Klaw

1 00:00:00,930 --> 00:00:02,963 This is a Dynamike Network podcast. 2 00:00:24,418 --> 00:00:28,940 Welcome to the dynamic duel podcast a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate 3 00:00:28,980 --> 00:00:34,383 the superiority between Marvel and DC By comparing their characters in stat-based battle simulations 4 00:00:34,903 --> 00:00:40,626 I'm Marvelous Joe and I'm his twin brother Johnny DC and in this episode We're going to find 5 00:00:40,666 --> 00:00:46,610 out who to win in a fight between the Superman villain Livewire and the Black Panther villain 6 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:52,673 claw essentially These are two energy beings one composed of electricity and one composed 7 00:00:52,713 --> 00:00:57,404 of sound So, yeah, we're gonna find out who wins between electricity and sound, essentially. 8 00:00:57,885 --> 00:01:02,628 You had no idea who's gonna win, so we can't wait to find out the answer later on in this 9 00:01:02,688 --> 00:01:06,191 episode. Before that, we're gonna break down the latest comic book movie news to come out 10 00:01:06,231 --> 00:01:10,894 this past week, of which there was one major news item. According to Jeff Snyder, renowned 11 00:01:10,934 --> 00:01:15,618 Hollywood journalist, Deborah Anwalt and Elden Henson will be returning as their characters 12 00:01:15,638 --> 00:01:21,394 of Karen Page and Foggy Nelson in Daredevil Born Again. It's great news! As always, we 13 00:01:21,434 --> 00:01:25,416 list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if 14 00:01:25,436 --> 00:01:30,599 you want to skip ahead to a particular topic. Our artificially intelligent dual simulator, 15 00:01:30,859 --> 00:01:38,190 AJ-9K, has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up. Why hello there. Do you love 16 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:43,112 listening and chatting about Marvel and DC? 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Be sure to tune in to the Max 29 00:02:46,763 --> 00:02:51,404 Destruction Podcast guys, part of the Dynamike Podcast Network which last week found out who 30 00:02:51,424 --> 00:02:56,966 would win in a fight between Severus Snape from Harry Potter and Wong from Doctor Strange. 31 00:02:57,506 --> 00:03:02,567 This week I'll actually be guesting on Ken's show as we find out who would win between Michael 32 00:03:02,607 --> 00:03:09,509 Keaton's Batman from the 1989 Batman and Matt Salinger's Captain America from the 1990 Captain 33 00:03:09,529 --> 00:03:14,636 America film. That's right. Max Destruction is doing a Marvel vs. DC episode, and if you 34 00:03:14,676 --> 00:03:18,758 want to find out who'd win between Batman and Captain America, at least those versions of 35 00:03:18,778 --> 00:03:24,042 the characters, listen to his show Wednesday, January 15th. Meanwhile, on the Sandro World 36 00:03:24,082 --> 00:03:29,525 podcast, host Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between your favorite anime characters. 37 00:03:29,925 --> 00:03:36,229 This week, we'll find out who would win between Killer B from Naruto against Blackstar from 38 00:03:37,562 --> 00:03:42,103 And in the newest show in the Dynamite Podcast Network, Console Combat, hosts John and Dean 39 00:03:42,144 --> 00:03:46,305 find out who would win in fights between your favorite video game characters. In yesterday's 40 00:03:46,345 --> 00:03:51,888 episode, they speculated on who would win between Cervantes from Soul Calibur and Scorpion from 41 00:03:51,928 --> 00:03:57,870 Mortal Kombat. So be sure to check that out. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link 42 00:03:57,910 --> 00:04:03,312 in our show notes to listen to all of the shows in the Dynamite Podcast Network. But with that 43 00:04:03,352 --> 00:04:09,699 out of the way, quick to the no prize. A no prize is an award Marvel used to give out to 44 00:04:09,739 --> 00:04:15,682 fans. Our version, the Dynamic Dual No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram and 45 00:04:15,742 --> 00:04:20,625 in our email newsletter for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question 46 00:04:20,665 --> 00:04:25,868 of the week. Last week's question we asked, who would you cast as the sentry in the MCU's 47 00:04:25,948 --> 00:04:29,650 Thunderbolts film? And that's coming off of the news that Steven Yeun has departed that 48 00:04:29,690 --> 00:04:33,812 role for that movie. You got a lot of great answers. Let's go ahead and run down our honorable 49 00:04:33,852 --> 00:04:39,596 mentions as well as the no prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Scott Camacho, 50 00:04:39,896 --> 00:04:44,118 who said, I'm going to go ahead and state the obvious and say Henry Cavill. I mean, he's 51 00:04:44,178 --> 00:04:49,401 worked with Superman. So, you know, he has the goody two shoes parts of Sentry. And for the 52 00:04:49,561 --> 00:04:55,825 void, his work with the Witcher and being a villain in Mission Impossible, I think he has 53 00:04:55,845 --> 00:05:01,668 the acting chops and the star power to pull that character off. So I've heard this answer 54 00:05:01,708 --> 00:05:06,852 before and I've always hated it. But now who we know that Henry Cavill is not returning 55 00:05:06,892 --> 00:05:11,235 to the role of Superman. Sure. Why not make him the century? I actually think that would 56 00:05:11,275 --> 00:05:16,380 be really cool. And I would love to see the actor again in a superhero role. Absolutely. 57 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,624 I mean, the guy is very superhero esque in his appearance. I think he'd be a fantastic century. 58 00:05:21,924 --> 00:05:28,770 The character is often seen as an analog to DC's Superman. So, yeah, if he played Superman 59 00:05:28,810 --> 00:05:33,570 for DC, let's have him play the analog for Marvel. I think he'd be a great get. It would also 60 00:05:33,590 --> 00:05:40,254 be like the ultimate troll from Marvel 2 Warner Brothers. Exactly, exactly. I'm surprised actually 61 00:05:40,274 --> 00:05:43,235 Jonathan you're going along with this because I think it's a great idea. Well this would 62 00:05:43,275 --> 00:05:48,238 be punishment for not hashtag restoring the Snyderverse. WB gets what's coming to them. 63 00:05:48,678 --> 00:05:53,521 Great answer Scott Camacho. Our next honorable mention goes to his twin brother, Gil Camacho. 64 00:05:53,881 --> 00:05:59,484 Who said? Hey guys, Gilimacho here. I know a lot of people are probably thinking Henry Cavill 65 00:05:59,524 --> 00:06:05,312 should be a good recruit for Sentry. just so we can punch a gut to DC. But since we both 66 00:06:05,352 --> 00:06:10,856 have Luke and Chris Hemsworth, I think it should be Liam Hemsworth. All right, guys, thank you. 67 00:06:11,516 --> 00:06:16,961 Yeah, why not round out the Hemsworth brother trio and get Liam Hemsworth in the role as 68 00:06:16,981 --> 00:06:22,124 the Sentry. Now, some people may balk at the idea of casting both brothers in the MCU, but 69 00:06:22,164 --> 00:06:28,109 there's precedent given that Luke plays the thespian version of Thor in Thor Ragnarok and 70 00:06:28,149 --> 00:06:32,555 Love and Thunder. But also, the Sentry kinda looks like Thor in the comic books. You know, 71 00:06:32,735 --> 00:06:37,556 they're both like big buff dudes with long blonde hair. Although Liam Hemsworth does look kinda 72 00:06:37,596 --> 00:06:42,257 weird with long light colored hair. Have you seen him as the Witcher? It's weird! No. Hahaha. 73 00:06:43,858 --> 00:06:47,499 I don't think it's a bad option. I think it's a pretty solid option. I think it could work, 74 00:06:47,559 --> 00:06:54,101 yeah. Great answer, Gil. Our final honorable mention goes to Matt Estes, who said... Hey 75 00:06:54,141 --> 00:07:00,907 guys, Matt Estes here. Hey, I think Alexander Ludwig. From Vikings, he played Bjorn Ironside, 76 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:06,911 would be a great pick for this entry. He's got the look and he's got the acting chops. Yeah, 77 00:07:06,991 --> 00:07:11,414 offhand, I didn't remember who Alexander Ludwig was until I looked him up, but I totally recognize 78 00:07:11,434 --> 00:07:18,358 him as the main villain of the first Hunger Games movie, and from Vikings. The guy looks 79 00:07:18,398 --> 00:07:23,041 the part of this entry to a T. He has some big roles under his belt, and also, I don't think 80 00:07:23,061 --> 00:07:28,452 he'll cost Marvel a dime. Yeah, honestly, there are a lot of actors from the Vikings series 81 00:07:28,672 --> 00:07:33,154 that can play superhero roles. I'm still waiting for Katherine Winnick to join DC in some kind 82 00:07:33,194 --> 00:07:37,557 of role. She needs to be there. She's awesome. Yeah, I remember when she was the front runner 83 00:07:37,597 --> 00:07:41,939 on my wishlist to play Captain Marvel. But great answer, Matt Estes. We want to give a quick 84 00:07:41,979 --> 00:07:48,322 shout out to Mitchell Smoothie, Cornelius Robinson, and Corey Wooten for taking the time to visit 85 00:07:48,342 --> 00:07:53,385 our website and record your answers. But the winner of this week's Snow Prize is... John 86 00:07:53,425 --> 00:07:59,062 Spees. and Ryan McMullen, who both gave the same answer. Let's hear both of them. Hey guys, 87 00:07:59,102 --> 00:08:06,087 John Speas here. My pick for the century would be Alexander Skarsgård. I know his father's 88 00:08:06,107 --> 00:08:13,033 already been in the MCU, but Alexander is tall. We know he can get fit from his time as Tarzan, 89 00:08:13,534 --> 00:08:18,418 and he's got that Swedish blonde hair that I think would work really, really well. So he 90 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:24,935 is my pick, Alexander Skarsgård. Hey guys, it's Ryan McMullen here. Hi. choice for the Sentry 91 00:08:24,975 --> 00:08:30,538 would be Alexander Skarsgard because that guy's got the look, right? He could definitely be 92 00:08:30,558 --> 00:08:35,661 the Sentry. Nobody else hands down is him. Yeah, both of these are great answers. Not only does 93 00:08:35,761 --> 00:08:41,124 Alexander Skarsgard have the look though, he also has the intensity, I believe, for the 94 00:08:41,164 --> 00:08:47,088 role, which would be required to play a mentally unstable character like the Sentry. Oh sure, 95 00:08:47,168 --> 00:08:51,274 yeah, did you see him in the Northman? That was a great role for him. No, but I saw the 96 00:08:51,314 --> 00:08:57,035 trailer for Infinity Pool because I was too afraid to watch the movie and holy shit, this 97 00:08:57,075 --> 00:09:02,037 guy could act. Yeah, he's a leading man. I have no doubt that he would make the perfect century 98 00:09:02,157 --> 00:09:08,279 and I think a lot of fans would be super excited to see him in the role because he is to a T 99 00:09:08,719 --> 00:09:12,640 the perfect century. It needs to happen. You know, I did see him in recently that I thought 100 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:19,170 he was really good in the final season of Succession. He was incredible in that role. like really 101 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:23,753 menacing and like really intelligent. So yeah, that's the perfect way to describe the century. 102 00:09:24,033 --> 00:09:30,157 If Kevin Feige cast Alexander Skarsgard in the role of the century like tomorrow, I guarantee 103 00:09:30,177 --> 00:09:35,961 you MCU stock would go up. Fans would be all over that. Absolutely, yeah. It would save 104 00:09:35,981 --> 00:09:42,286 the box office. Do it Kevin Feige, do it for the fans. So congrats to John Spees and Ryan 105 00:09:42,326 --> 00:09:46,769 McMullen. John is a long time friend of the show. You know, him and his brother Adam have 106 00:09:46,849 --> 00:09:53,745 guessed it on. this podcast on numerous occasions. They recently ended their nostalgic movie podcast, 107 00:09:54,065 --> 00:09:59,969 The Blast From Our Past, and we are super sad to see it gone. And Ryan McMullen, I think 108 00:09:59,989 --> 00:10:03,812 this is the first time we've heard from you. Way to crush it out of the gate. Absolutely. 109 00:10:04,272 --> 00:10:07,334 If you, the listener, want a shot at winning your own no prize, stay tuned to later on this 110 00:10:07,374 --> 00:10:12,157 episode when we'll be asking another Question of the Week. And now that that's done, on to 111 00:10:12,177 --> 00:10:12,737 the news. 112 00:10:18,318 --> 00:10:24,020 Alright this past week we got some awesome news in regards to the Disney Plus upcoming television 113 00:10:24,060 --> 00:10:29,382 show Daredevil Born Again. Now we learned like a couple months ago that the entire series 114 00:10:29,422 --> 00:10:35,144 is being retooled under the new showrunner Dario Scartapin and with that news Jeff Snyder is 115 00:10:35,184 --> 00:10:41,767 reporting via his blog The Insnyder that Deborah Ann Wall and Elden Hansen will be reprising 116 00:10:41,787 --> 00:10:48,342 their roles as Karen Page and Foggy Nelson in the upcoming Daredevil season. Fantastic. Yeah, 117 00:10:48,362 --> 00:10:52,903 it's super exciting because previously we had heard the exact opposite of that, that they 118 00:10:53,003 --> 00:10:58,064 weren't returning because then Disney would have had to have paid the old Netflix writers 119 00:10:58,444 --> 00:11:03,606 as like creators of the show. Yeah, something weird like that. But I'm glad that Skardepain 120 00:11:03,646 --> 00:11:08,307 realized that Foggy Nelson and Karen Page were a huge part of the appeal from the Netflix 121 00:11:08,347 --> 00:11:13,788 series. The chemistry between those three cast members was spot on and a big part of what 122 00:11:13,808 --> 00:11:18,670 made the show enjoyable. Yeah, totally. I really hope that this means that The Netflix series 123 00:11:18,851 --> 00:11:24,856 is made canon in the MCU. That would be fantastic. Well, interestingly enough, if you go onto 124 00:11:24,876 --> 00:11:31,101 the Disney Plus Marvel Hub page, the Netflix series have been added to the official Marvel 125 00:11:31,121 --> 00:11:37,307 timeline in their menu. A what? Yeah, so it looks like those shows are actually being treated 126 00:11:37,367 --> 00:11:43,952 as canon now. Wait, even Iron Fist? Even Iron Fist. Whoa. Now, of course, that doesn't guarantee 127 00:11:43,972 --> 00:11:48,816 that the actors will be. cast the same in future appearances. But we know that a lot are returning, 128 00:11:49,096 --> 00:11:54,199 including Charlie Cox, now Deborah Anwalt, Elden Hansen, Jon Bernthal will be returning as the 129 00:11:54,239 --> 00:11:58,983 Punisher, as it's expected that he will still retain his cameo on the Daredevil born again 130 00:11:59,023 --> 00:12:02,925 series. And there are also rumors that Kristen Ritter will be returning as Jessica Jones in 131 00:12:02,945 --> 00:12:08,169 a cameo. So lots to look forward to. Super excited with the new direction that Dario Scartapin 132 00:12:08,209 --> 00:12:13,131 has taken this series. and really bringing Marvel fans what they want. The series doesn't currently 133 00:12:13,151 --> 00:12:18,513 have a premiere date yet, but it's expected to come out in 2025. Can't wait for that. Of 134 00:12:18,553 --> 00:12:22,735 course, if you want your immediate Daredevil fix, you can see him for approximately 90 seconds 135 00:12:23,296 --> 00:12:28,318 as he cameos in the Echo television show. I haven't seen that yet. Is it really only 90 136 00:12:28,358 --> 00:12:34,701 seconds? Yeah, it's only for one fight scene. What a rip off. I guess if you really want 137 00:12:34,721 --> 00:12:38,691 your Daredevil fix, just rewatch the Netflix series. There you go. But speaking of Karen 138 00:12:38,711 --> 00:12:42,717 Page and Foggy Nelson returning to the show, that brings us to our question of the week. 139 00:12:47,158 --> 00:12:51,961 What other character from the Daredevil Netflix series do you most hope returns for Disney 140 00:12:51,981 --> 00:12:57,865 Plus's Daredevil born again show and why? Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking 141 00:12:57,925 --> 00:13:02,089 on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt 142 00:13:02,129 --> 00:13:06,752 you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long. And don't forget 143 00:13:06,792 --> 00:13:11,335 to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer 144 00:13:11,596 --> 00:13:16,614 and award that person a dynamic duel no prize. that we'll post to Instagram and our email 145 00:13:16,675 --> 00:13:22,427 newsletter. Be sure to answer before January 17th, because next weekend is our birthday, 146 00:13:23,008 --> 00:13:25,293 and we're recording the next episode a little early. 147 00:13:32,430 --> 00:13:35,617 But I think that does it for all the news for this episode, so let's go ahead and get into 148 00:13:35,677 --> 00:13:41,029 our main event, where we find out who'd win between the villain characters of Livewire 149 00:13:41,671 --> 00:13:42,613 and Claw. 150 00:13:57,794 --> 00:14:02,375 Alright, Livewire versus Claw, as I mentioned at the top of this episode, these are two energy 151 00:14:02,415 --> 00:14:07,296 beings, one of them being made out of electricity and one of them being made out of sound. I'm 152 00:14:07,316 --> 00:14:13,218 a little bit nervous about how this speculation is going to go considering that these two characters 153 00:14:13,538 --> 00:14:18,199 don't really have a physical essence that can be permanently harmed, I think. Yeah, how does 154 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:24,281 one energy form damage another energy form? I have no idea. We'll find out. We'll figure 155 00:14:24,321 --> 00:14:30,318 something out. Of course, Livewire is a Superman villain who was first introduced in the Superman, 156 00:14:30,358 --> 00:14:34,481 the animated series back in the 90s. She was an original character that has kind of stuck 157 00:14:34,521 --> 00:14:39,126 around in the comics. Yeah, kind of like Harley Quinn. Yeah, yeah. Whereas Klaw has been a 158 00:14:39,166 --> 00:14:44,350 primary villain for Black Panther since his first iteration. He was portrayed by Andy Serkis 159 00:14:44,530 --> 00:14:49,375 in the Black Panther movie as well as Avengers Age of Ultron. Yeah, but the character is pretty 160 00:14:49,435 --> 00:14:54,091 different in the comics as far as I'm aware. Yeah, he is like... Klaue in the movies was 161 00:14:54,231 --> 00:15:00,055 an arms dealer whose hand was severed by Ultron, whereas in the comics, Klaue is more of a scientist 162 00:15:00,195 --> 00:15:05,019 whose hand was actually taken by T'Challa himself. But we'll learn more about the character shortly. 163 00:15:05,079 --> 00:15:10,563 Before that, to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient duel simulator, 164 00:15:10,763 --> 00:15:17,468 Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about determining a winner in our 165 00:15:17,528 --> 00:15:22,639 duel matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants 166 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:28,723 is by running 1000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation 167 00:15:28,763 --> 00:15:34,487 is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I randomise 168 00:15:34,507 --> 00:15:38,950 the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate the many variables that can 169 00:15:38,990 --> 00:15:43,873 occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official Marvel power grid from 170 00:15:43,893 --> 00:15:49,017 which the DC characters statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat categories are included such 171 00:15:49,057 --> 00:15:54,556 as range, damage potential, versatility and perception in order to create a more detailed 172 00:15:54,576 --> 00:15:59,698 and accurate simulation. The results of the 1000 simulations provide a percentage of wins 173 00:15:59,718 --> 00:16:04,180 for each character. The contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor as 174 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,543 they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing, neither character 175 00:16:09,563 --> 00:16:14,285 should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way 176 00:16:14,305 --> 00:16:19,355 for Batman to defeat Superman. So the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents 177 00:16:19,375 --> 00:16:24,418 that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity 178 00:16:24,458 --> 00:16:29,821 or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes tabulated for determination 179 00:16:29,841 --> 00:16:35,124 of the winner. Thanks AJ9K. Before we run the simulations though, we like to break down each 180 00:16:35,144 --> 00:16:39,566 character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 181 00:16:39,907 --> 00:16:44,029 simulations would play out beat for beat. And I believe it's my turn to go first with the 182 00:16:44,089 --> 00:16:51,135 DC character. So let me tell you all about Livewire. Metropolis's radio shock jock DJ, Leslie Willis, 183 00:16:51,295 --> 00:16:56,877 made a name for herself bashing Superman, claiming that he only saved people for attention seeking 184 00:16:57,117 --> 00:17:03,019 and less than altruistic reasons. At the height of her popularity, the owner of the radio station, 185 00:17:03,319 --> 00:17:10,561 Miguel Sendoza, decided to switch to a country music format and he fired Leslie, in part because 186 00:17:10,601 --> 00:17:15,815 his wife had been saved by Superman a week prior. and he didn't appreciate Leslie's success. 187 00:17:16,416 --> 00:17:23,040 Unbeknownst to Miguel, Leslie was a metahuman capable of absorbing and redirecting electromagnetic 188 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:28,484 waves, and after electrocuting her producer, Leslie went to the roof of the radio station's 189 00:17:28,524 --> 00:17:34,569 building and climbed its antenna in an attempt to disrupt the signal coming from it. She was 190 00:17:34,629 --> 00:17:40,433 struck by lightning on the tower, however, and her nervous system, unable to absorb that level 191 00:17:40,473 --> 00:17:46,669 of electricity. was converted into pure electrical energy. Thrilled by her transformation and 192 00:17:46,809 --> 00:17:52,293 overcome by power, Leslie decided to attack Superman while he was searching for Lois Lane, 193 00:17:52,593 --> 00:17:58,538 who had been kidnapped by Leslie's brother. Initially overwhelmed by Leslie's power, Superman 194 00:17:58,578 --> 00:18:03,641 managed to defeat her by seeding a cloud with ice particles, transforming it into a storm 195 00:18:03,681 --> 00:18:09,894 cloud that generated a lightning bolt that shorted Leslie's body, just in time to save Lois. You 196 00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:15,518 can learn more about Superman in our Superman vs. Dr. Doom episode. Leslie was later kidnapped, 197 00:18:15,578 --> 00:18:21,744 along with many other metahumans, by an alien known as the Auctioneer, who captured and sold 198 00:18:21,904 --> 00:18:27,568 unique beings across the universe. After successfully shorting the power source to her containment 199 00:18:27,609 --> 00:18:34,270 field, Leslie was able to escape and help Earth's heroes such as Superman and Mr. Terrific. defeat 200 00:18:34,290 --> 00:18:39,394 the Auctioneer by taking over his ship's communication systems, and she was able to broadcast their 201 00:18:39,434 --> 00:18:45,259 victory to Earth. After having been seen partnered with the heroes, Leslie decided to turn over 202 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:51,004 a new leaf and agreed to be studied by Star Labs. Her power levels fluctuated over time 203 00:18:51,325 --> 00:18:56,429 as her entire body began converting to energy, which slowly caused her to become mentally 204 00:18:56,529 --> 00:19:03,782 unbalanced. She escaped Star Labs and took hostages in Las Vegas. demanding a ransom of all the 205 00:19:03,822 --> 00:19:09,205 money in the town. Jimmy Olsen happened to be in Las Vegas at the time, and after he summoned 206 00:19:09,285 --> 00:19:15,047 Superman and he and Leslie fought, Superman managed to get Leslie into a containment suit 207 00:19:15,147 --> 00:19:20,669 that he wore during a time in the 90s when he himself was also an electrical energy being. 208 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:26,312 I remember that electric blue Superman, yeah. The containment suit instantly helped regulate 209 00:19:26,372 --> 00:19:32,663 Leslie's energy and her sanity was restored. Soon after, Leslie became a member of the Superman 210 00:19:32,723 --> 00:19:38,388 of America, a team Superman put together after traveling the United States and realizing he 211 00:19:38,428 --> 00:19:44,433 can't be everywhere all the time. In post-Flashpoint continuity, Leslie was given a new origin. 212 00:19:44,853 --> 00:19:50,718 No longer a radio shock jock, but a streaming personality and vlogger made famous for her 213 00:19:50,778 --> 00:19:56,323 makeup tutorials and pranks. For one of her pranks, Leslie broke into Metropolis's main 214 00:19:56,363 --> 00:20:03,106 power station and took control of the with the intention of turning off all of its power except 215 00:20:03,166 --> 00:20:09,008 for one illuminated, obscene message that could be seen from space. Superman interrupted the 216 00:20:09,068 --> 00:20:15,270 stream, however, and Leslie accidentally electrocuted herself with enough electricity to power Metropolis. 217 00:20:15,770 --> 00:20:21,012 Blaming Superman for what had happened to her, she fought him a number of times before Batman 218 00:20:21,052 --> 00:20:26,373 created an energy-diffusion prison for her on Stryker's Island. A cult managed to siphon 219 00:20:26,393 --> 00:20:31,283 her out of prison, however, and Batgirl was forced to bring her down with her father Commissioner 220 00:20:31,343 --> 00:20:37,665 Gordon when he was Batman for a time. And that's Livewire's brief history. She hasn't been around 221 00:20:37,706 --> 00:20:44,368 for a long time. Powers-wise, Livewire is a being of pure electromagnetic energy, making 222 00:20:44,408 --> 00:20:50,731 her immune to most physical attacks. She can absorb, store, and project electrical energy 223 00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:56,433 strong enough to affect Superman, though high-voltage attacks do use up a substantial amount of her 224 00:20:56,513 --> 00:21:02,356 energy. and forces her to recharge by absorbing additional electrical energy elsewhere. She 225 00:21:02,396 --> 00:21:07,718 is able to phase through most solid matter and can travel along power lines or other forms 226 00:21:07,758 --> 00:21:13,320 of circuitry. She could also imbue machines and devices with her own electrical energy 227 00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:19,202 to take control of them. She can naturally emit radio waves, and she can charge objects with 228 00:21:19,262 --> 00:21:22,024 electromagnetic energy to make them magnetic. 229 00:21:27,026 --> 00:21:32,831 and cannot affect insulated objects. That's LiveWire. I like how her origin was updated 230 00:21:32,871 --> 00:21:36,935 from a shock jock, which is what it was from the cartoon, if I remember correctly, to an 231 00:21:37,015 --> 00:21:42,299 influencer. Yeah, a wannabe influencer, essentially. Yeah, that's pretty great. I didn't know she 232 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:46,944 was a technopath, though. I didn't know she could control other electronic devices. Yes. 233 00:21:46,964 --> 00:21:51,348 I guess that makes sense. Yeah, she does that pretty frequently with TV screens, or just 234 00:21:51,388 --> 00:21:56,207 screens of any kind, really. Okay. She like invades their systems and then like she can 235 00:21:56,307 --> 00:22:01,010 speak to people through screens. It's pretty cool. Yeah, this is gonna be a difficult fight 236 00:22:01,090 --> 00:22:06,673 because let me tell you about Klaue's history and powers. Ulysses Klaue was born in Belgium, 237 00:22:06,973 --> 00:22:12,737 the son of Fritz Klaue, a former Hydra Colonel who in World War II joined Baron Strucker in 238 00:22:12,777 --> 00:22:17,960 an attempted invasion of the African nation of Wakanda in order to learn its secrets. The 239 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,794 Klaue family had a history with the as Ulysses' great-great-great grandfather had a run-in 240 00:22:23,814 --> 00:22:29,456 with the Wakandans in the 1800s and never returned home to tell about it. Fritz, his father, was 241 00:22:29,516 --> 00:22:34,497 slightly luckier as he was able to barely escape Wakanda with his life. Returning home to Belgium, 242 00:22:34,858 --> 00:22:40,499 Fritz raised Ulysses with tales of the formidable African nation and instilled in his son an 243 00:22:40,539 --> 00:22:45,621 intense hatred for Wakanda and its leader, the Black Panther. You can learn more about the 244 00:22:45,641 --> 00:22:51,115 Black Panther in his dual episode against Black Manta. Something of a science prodigy, Ulysses 245 00:22:51,155 --> 00:22:56,260 studied physics as a young adult, specializing in the field of applied sonics at the Technical 246 00:22:56,300 --> 00:23:01,985 University of Delft in the Netherlands. There, he designed a sound transducer able to convert 247 00:23:02,005 --> 00:23:07,610 the vibrational waves of sound into physical mass. However, the device would require vibranium 248 00:23:07,710 --> 00:23:12,714 in order to function, vibranium being a rare metal found only in the nation of Wakanda that 249 00:23:12,754 --> 00:23:17,891 can absorb kinetic energy. Eager to get his hands on the metal? Ulysses enlisted a group 250 00:23:17,931 --> 00:23:23,236 of mercenaries and fashioned a sonic blaster. He and the mercenaries journeyed to the Wakandan 251 00:23:23,276 --> 00:23:29,201 border, where they were confronted by its then-king and Black Panther, T'Chaka. When the king was 252 00:23:29,281 --> 00:23:35,067 overpowered by Ulysses' sonic blaster, 13-year-old Prince T'Challa jumped in the fight to help. 253 00:23:35,587 --> 00:23:40,552 As Ulysses fired his weapon on the young prince, T'Chaka leapt in the way of the blast and was 254 00:23:40,632 --> 00:23:46,193 killed, protecting his son. In retaliation, Wakandan warrior Zuri impaled Ulysses right 255 00:23:46,273 --> 00:23:52,138 arm with a spear, causing him to drop his sonic blaster. Young T'Challa then picked it up and 256 00:23:52,238 --> 00:23:58,003 used it to blow off Ulysses hand and force the villain to retreat. In the end, Ulysses did 257 00:23:58,043 --> 00:24:03,228 obtain a small sample of vibranium, but more importantly, earned an enemy for life in Prince 258 00:24:03,248 --> 00:24:08,473 T'Challa, who would grow up to become the new king of Wakanda and the Black Panther. Ulysses 259 00:24:08,513 --> 00:24:12,955 spent the next few years building his sound transducer that could convert sound waves into 260 00:24:13,035 --> 00:24:18,238 solid form and equipping it into a prosthetic device to replace his missing right hand. He 261 00:24:18,258 --> 00:24:22,561 attempted to invade Wakanda again, this time getting at the source of all vibranium called 262 00:24:22,621 --> 00:24:28,104 the Great Mound, and bombarded Wakanda with a horde of sound energy creature constructs, 263 00:24:28,584 --> 00:24:33,287 which Ulysses referred to as Echoes. However, Black Panther was able to track the source 264 00:24:33,327 --> 00:24:38,918 of these Echoes to Ulysses' secret lab which he blew up, seemingly killing Ulysses. As it 265 00:24:38,938 --> 00:24:43,800 turned out, however, the villain's consciousness survived as his body was transformed by his 266 00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:49,542 transducer into a being made entirely out of sound, now able to shape and control vibrational 267 00:24:49,582 --> 00:24:54,945 forces at will. With his new abilities, he set his sights on the Fantastic Four and Mr. Fantastic's 268 00:24:55,025 --> 00:25:00,207 inventions. Though Ulysses was able to trap the team in a force field, the heroes consulted 269 00:25:00,227 --> 00:25:05,209 with Black Panther, who sent them some vibranium knuckle guards that Mr. Fantastic used to defeat 270 00:25:05,249 --> 00:25:09,891 the villain. As it turned out, vibranium was one of Ulysses' only weaknesses due to its 271 00:25:09,931 --> 00:25:15,134 vibration absorbing properties that would render his powers inert. Ulysses was imprisoned, but 272 00:25:15,174 --> 00:25:20,136 was freed by Ultron, who recruited him into his Masters of Evil super villain team. The 273 00:25:20,176 --> 00:25:25,218 group took on the Avengers, but were defeated in battle with Ulysses falling to his rival, 274 00:25:25,438 --> 00:25:30,741 the Black Panther. His sound form was too powerful to be subdued by conventional means, however, 275 00:25:31,201 --> 00:25:36,867 and Ulysses to set his sights on an isotope variation of Wakandan vibranium called Antarctic 276 00:25:36,907 --> 00:25:41,789 Vibranium, which was found only in the Savage Land, a hidden tropical region in Antarctica 277 00:25:41,949 --> 00:25:47,911 located well below sea level. Unlike Wakandan vibranium which absorbs vibrations, Antarctic 278 00:25:47,931 --> 00:25:53,913 vibranium emanates vibrations. Ulysses was thwarted in his attempt to obtain it by the jungle hero 279 00:25:53,953 --> 00:25:59,367 of the Savage Land known as Khazar. who caused the villain to attune the Antarctic Vibranium 280 00:25:59,508 --> 00:26:04,511 at such a frequency as to open a portal to a different vibratory plane of reality, where 281 00:26:04,571 --> 00:26:09,495 Ulysses became stuck. Eventually, though, he found his way back home via the Nexus of All 282 00:26:09,535 --> 00:26:14,378 Realities, a portal to all dimensions that you can learn more about in our Swamp Thing vs 283 00:26:14,458 --> 00:26:19,341 Man Thing dual episode. Ulysses suffered his quickest and most embarrassing defeat at the 284 00:26:19,381 --> 00:26:25,534 hands of the mutant Dazzler, whose whole ability is to convert sound into light energy. She 285 00:26:25,574 --> 00:26:31,196 absorbed his sound essence only to expel it later in a fight with Galactus, the world devourer. 286 00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:36,519 Ulysses' consciousness then found itself living inside of Galactus' machinery for a time until 287 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:41,321 he was discovered by Dr. Doom during the Secret Wars event where heroes were pit against villains 288 00:26:41,421 --> 00:26:46,684 in a cosmic experiment on a planet called Battleworld. After returning to Earth, Ulysses became a 289 00:26:46,724 --> 00:26:51,711 member of the Frightful Four, alongside the Wizard, Hydro Man and Titania, and the team 290 00:26:51,731 --> 00:26:56,455 was successful in transforming the Fantastic Four's thing from his rocky form into his human 291 00:26:56,495 --> 00:27:02,140 form as Ben Grimm, thus rendering the hero powerless. Though the Frightful Four were able to capture 292 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,984 the remaining Fantastic Four, it was the human Ben Grimm who freed his teammates and saved 293 00:27:07,024 --> 00:27:12,329 the day, resulting in Ulysses being imprisoned by Mr. Fantastic in a special vacuum containment 294 00:27:12,429 --> 00:27:19,038 unit. An echo construct of Ulysses himself managed to evade apprehension, however. and captured 295 00:27:19,098 --> 00:27:25,142 the hero Daredevil in an effort to use his superior senses to locate his original self via a specially 296 00:27:25,202 --> 00:27:30,206 built antenna. Daredevil destroyed the Echo's antenna device though, which destroyed the 297 00:27:30,286 --> 00:27:35,389 Echo itself. The real Ulysses would be freed by the frightful Four, which included the new 298 00:27:35,409 --> 00:27:40,573 member Carnage, whom you can learn more about in our Lobo vs Carnage dual episode. Due to 299 00:27:40,593 --> 00:27:46,657 the symbiote's insanity and weakness to Sonics, Ulysses kept Carnage in check to keep the team 300 00:27:46,717 --> 00:27:52,137 safe. Carnage turned on the team, however, and stabbed Ulysses with a vibranium spear that 301 00:27:52,177 --> 00:27:58,463 caused him to detonate and disperse beyond reconstitution. With his final act, Ulysses used the last of 302 00:27:58,503 --> 00:28:03,847 his power to summon a bolt of sound energy that separated Carnage from his host. Though he 303 00:28:03,867 --> 00:28:08,631 was believed to be dead, Ulysses was later found as a prisoner of the international peacekeeping 304 00:28:08,711 --> 00:28:14,556 agency, SHIELD, apparently having reconstituted. That's his backstory. Powers-wise, Claws abilities 305 00:28:14,636 --> 00:28:20,621 stem from his Soundwave body. which his consciousness can vibrate at a frequency to produce a solid 306 00:28:20,681 --> 00:28:26,165 form. In fact, he can manipulate all ambient sound in his vicinity for a variety of effects, 307 00:28:26,586 --> 00:28:33,031 including creating other solid sound constructs called echoes, project waves or beams of concussive 308 00:28:33,071 --> 00:28:38,996 force, and create deafening or debilitating tones. By manipulating the frequency of his 309 00:28:39,136 --> 00:28:44,101 own sonic state, he can render himself highly durable, with increased strength able to lift 310 00:28:44,141 --> 00:28:49,115 around 10 tons, and even more when supported by additional vibrational force, or he can 311 00:28:49,135 --> 00:28:53,856 render himself intangible. Either way, he is virtually immortal and resistant to physical 312 00:28:53,896 --> 00:28:58,998 attack. He is a gifted technical engineer and scientist in the branch of physics that studies 313 00:28:59,058 --> 00:29:04,980 sound. His only weakness is vibranium, which absorbs sound, or a vacuum in which he would 314 00:29:05,020 --> 00:29:10,414 dissipate. And that's Klaue. I'm not gonna lie, Klaue is a pretty cool villain. Yeah, he's 315 00:29:10,454 --> 00:29:15,238 kind of like a red lantern, although more like a red green lantern because red lanterns do 316 00:29:15,278 --> 00:29:19,601 they even produce constructs? I thought it was just like lava. They can, they can. Although 317 00:29:19,621 --> 00:29:25,826 I do think it's dumb that his friggin weakness is the primary weapon of his rival. That's 318 00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:30,830 like Superman going up against kryptonite man. Yeah, Clair really needs to find a better enemy 319 00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:36,295 than the guy who is best equipped to kill him. Exactly. I think you'd be a much more successful 320 00:29:36,355 --> 00:29:41,474 villain if he stopped going against the Black Panther. Definitely not the Dazzler either. 321 00:29:41,955 --> 00:29:42,477 That was funny. 322 00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:53,051 Now that we got the characters' histories and abilities out of the way, let's speculate on 323 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:57,712 how one of the 1000 simulated matches will go. The winner is determined by his simulations, 324 00:29:58,032 --> 00:30:02,893 not the speculation, but it's fun to imagine how the fight can play out. AJ9K, what are 325 00:30:02,913 --> 00:30:08,015 the rules of our speculation? Well, I should say there are no rules, other than the characters 326 00:30:08,055 --> 00:30:12,576 have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out 327 00:30:12,916 --> 00:30:17,177 is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation... 328 00:30:17,526 --> 00:30:22,527 The contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart in a nondescript environment that 329 00:30:22,547 --> 00:30:26,948 will have no bearing on the match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered 330 00:30:26,968 --> 00:30:31,990 in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's 331 00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:39,152 get into it. Livewire and Claw meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? I'm gonna say Livewire goes 332 00:30:39,192 --> 00:30:45,062 first because electricity moves faster than sound, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So... She's gonna 333 00:30:45,102 --> 00:30:51,945 start by firing a lightning bolt right at Claw's face, which no way he's fast enough to dodge 334 00:30:51,985 --> 00:30:57,547 that. Uh, well, I mean, like, if she moves her hand and fires the lightning bolt with lightning 335 00:30:57,587 --> 00:31:02,289 speed, you're probably right. Uh, he wouldn't be able to dodge it, so he gets hit in the 336 00:31:02,329 --> 00:31:09,052 face, but you forget his physical form isn't normal. It's just vibrational forces that are 337 00:31:09,192 --> 00:31:13,773 rendered solid. So, like, he probably gets blasted onto his back, and he's probably a little stunned. 338 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:20,532 but he's not like seriously injured, right? And you know what follows lightning? That's 339 00:31:20,612 --> 00:31:27,415 right, thunder. And as soon as the thunder clap follows her lightning bolt, which is like immediately, 340 00:31:28,916 --> 00:31:35,218 the thunder is gonna empower claw and he's gonna convert the sound of the thunder into a construct 341 00:31:35,298 --> 00:31:39,780 of like a herd of giant stampeding elephants. And those elephants are just gonna trample 342 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:47,181 Livewire. Interesting, okay. But actually, Livewire, she's just gonna convert her body into electricity 343 00:31:47,701 --> 00:31:53,646 and zip between the elephants and then like zap herself right into Claw's sonic device 344 00:31:53,666 --> 00:31:58,950 that he has on his hand. And she's going to short that sucker. So now Claw can't use it 345 00:31:58,991 --> 00:32:04,895 to project sound anymore. Oh, really? Yeah. You think it would be that easy? That's cute. 346 00:32:05,396 --> 00:32:13,350 Again, Claw is made of essentially kinetic sound energy, including his sonic blaster. It's not 347 00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:18,896 actually technology. Well, why the fuck does it look like it is then? Like, why would he 348 00:32:18,936 --> 00:32:24,541 just give himself a normal hand? Excuse me. Something as bad as does it need a reason? 349 00:32:25,002 --> 00:32:30,187 Yes. The answer is no. You know, he has a hand blaster on his hand because it's just that 350 00:32:30,207 --> 00:32:37,974 much cooler when he kills you with it. That's why. Oh, my gosh. OK. So live wire. She dives 351 00:32:38,034 --> 00:32:44,039 into his sonic blaster hand, which is essentially just pure kinetic energy. So she gets thrown 352 00:32:44,099 --> 00:32:49,623 out of it, I guess. But now she knows what she's dealing with, at least more or less. And she's 353 00:32:49,643 --> 00:32:57,628 going to generate an electromagnetic energy dome around Klaut to contain him. Okay. Well, 354 00:32:57,648 --> 00:33:03,733 I'm going to say this electricity dome is probably making a noise, like this low level electric 355 00:33:03,893 --> 00:33:10,217 hum sound, right? So Klaue's gonna tap into that electrical hum and amplify it so that 356 00:33:10,257 --> 00:33:16,882 it turns into this debilitating, piercing noise that just penetrates the energy field and hurts 357 00:33:16,962 --> 00:33:23,747 Livewire's ears so bad that she like drops the energy field. And then Klaue is gonna shoot 358 00:33:23,787 --> 00:33:29,671 this massive, concussive energy beam from a sonic blaster at Livewire and it's gonna slam 359 00:33:29,691 --> 00:33:35,114 into her like a freight train and cause her body to disperse. I was going to call bullshit 360 00:33:35,234 --> 00:33:41,136 on that, like, piercing sound attack you just did, but I guess she is still able to hear 361 00:33:41,276 --> 00:33:48,059 things. Yeah, yeah. I guess it would work. OK, so you fired this beam at her and say her body 362 00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:55,582 was dispersed. You think it was a dispersal, but it was intentional to dodge the beam and 363 00:33:55,622 --> 00:34:00,624 livewire reforms, like essentially teleporting right behind Klawe, where she's going to grab 364 00:34:00,664 --> 00:34:07,388 him by the back of the neck and just electrocute him. at the source fatality style dude sonic 365 00:34:07,849 --> 00:34:12,892 form I don't know what you don't get about that yes solid sonic form it would have no effect 366 00:34:12,932 --> 00:34:19,577 on him like the sound does not conduct electricity so she's gonna try to electrocute him he just 367 00:34:19,617 --> 00:34:25,321 goes intangible to escape her grasp and then he's gonna shoot a massive shock wave into 368 00:34:25,341 --> 00:34:31,445 the ground beneath live wire like shaking the ground and breaking it up and he's gonna lift 369 00:34:31,505 --> 00:34:37,250 these massive boulders using vibrational forces into the air and then slam them down onto her 370 00:34:37,290 --> 00:34:42,694 just Burying live wire like deep into the ground like 20 or 30 feet in the ground He buries 371 00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:48,619 live wire and that grounds her right? I'm no scientist But I think at that point her electrical 372 00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:53,483 energy form would be grounded and would like disperse into the earth and she would lose 373 00:34:53,523 --> 00:35:00,369 Her form so she'd be gone Essentially so match over you just got scienced. Oh, too can sense 374 00:35:00,429 --> 00:35:09,054 of this game bitch Let's say when she's grabbing him by the neck, that electric charge was actually 375 00:35:09,094 --> 00:35:16,598 to convert his sound form into an electric current, just like a microphone, so that she could transmit 376 00:35:16,638 --> 00:35:23,161 his body into space as radio waves. So she wins. What is that? How microphones work? You don't 377 00:35:23,181 --> 00:35:28,704 know how microphones work. Yeah, man. They like use magnets or some shit to like turn sound 378 00:35:28,784 --> 00:35:36,013 into an electric signal and live It's like a living electromagnet. So in your face. Magnets, 379 00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:44,400 how do they work? Ha ha ha. But like, you need some kind of like antenna or something to broadcast 380 00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:48,924 the signal. Like she would need some kind of technology. She can't do that on her own. No, 381 00:35:48,984 --> 00:35:53,788 actually, she can. That's one of her abilities that I said she had. She's actually even done 382 00:35:53,828 --> 00:35:59,152 her own Sonic attacks before by bombarding people who could hear radio waves like Superman or 383 00:35:59,172 --> 00:36:04,768 the Flash's children. Oh. Well, good on you for conveniently leaving that out of your bio. 384 00:36:04,788 --> 00:36:10,831 I just said I mentioned it. I wasn't paying attention to you. Also, radio waves are not 385 00:36:10,871 --> 00:36:15,114 the same thing as actual sound. So I think you're full of crap. That's not technically a sonic 386 00:36:15,154 --> 00:36:19,536 attack. I don't know what you're talking about. No, but a microphone will convert sound into 387 00:36:19,776 --> 00:36:24,900 a radio wave. And again, she just blasts them out into space to drift forever. That's stupid. 388 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,411 But we could leave the match there. I say she gets buried underground. and you say that Klaue 389 00:36:30,431 --> 00:36:35,634 gets blasted into the sky as radio waves. Yeah, no sound in space. Yeah, in space, no one can 390 00:36:35,654 --> 00:36:39,197 hear Klaue scream. We'll go ahead and leave the match there. We'll run the stats on these 391 00:36:39,217 --> 00:36:44,301 characters and find out which of these scenarios happens when we come back with a winner. AG9K, 392 00:36:44,661 --> 00:36:51,706 hit it. Inputting data, running calculations, processing results, simulations complete. All 393 00:36:51,726 --> 00:36:56,569 right. I was really nervous prior to the match, trying to figure out how these two energy beings 394 00:36:56,609 --> 00:37:01,583 would hurt each other, live wire being electrical energy, claw being essentially kinetic energy. 395 00:37:01,823 --> 00:37:05,884 I don't know if we found a great solution. We had to get really sciencey at the end there 396 00:37:05,904 --> 00:37:10,865 with our speculation. And probably 99% of that is bullshit because you and I are not scientists 397 00:37:10,885 --> 00:37:16,507 and we have no idea what the hell we're talking about. But it was a speculation. Yeah, yeah, 398 00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:22,809 it was. Technically, when it came to figuring out their stats, for the most part, they were 399 00:37:22,829 --> 00:37:29,113 going pretty tit for tat, I would say. Like Livewire is definitely faster than Claw. Yeah, 400 00:37:29,133 --> 00:37:34,859 but Claw is stronger and smarter. We said they were about the same when it came to evasiveness 401 00:37:34,979 --> 00:37:39,703 considering they both can go intangible, although have a kind of semi-tangible form that allows 402 00:37:39,723 --> 00:37:45,529 them to get punched in the face by the good guys. They're both really destructive. Their 403 00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:51,082 damage potential is really high. They're also both really versatile characters. Yeah, given 404 00:37:51,142 --> 00:37:55,905 that they could use their powers for a variety of effects, like Livewire even has Technopathy 405 00:37:56,486 --> 00:38:01,189 and Klaue can create constructs, including duplicates of himself and stuff like that. So a lot of 406 00:38:01,209 --> 00:38:06,052 back and forth, but also a lot of like equity between their abilities. For the most part, 407 00:38:06,072 --> 00:38:12,857 there was fighting skill. We said that while Klaue was an experienced fighter, Livewire 408 00:38:13,338 --> 00:38:18,281 basically had no training whatsoever. And there was nothing in my research to indicate that 409 00:38:18,321 --> 00:38:24,450 she did. She's very much a projectile based attacker. Very rarely does it come down to 410 00:38:24,490 --> 00:38:29,574 fisticuffs. So basically taking all of these stats into account, Joseph, who do you think 411 00:38:29,594 --> 00:38:35,659 came out on top? I think Mr. Ulysses Kla is coming out on top of this one. Although no 412 00:38:35,699 --> 00:38:41,123 one on Instagram agrees with me. Well, actually I should say 72% of the people who took our 413 00:38:41,163 --> 00:38:45,867 poll don't agree with me, but it's fine to be wrong. They can be wrong. I'm actually a little 414 00:38:45,887 --> 00:38:51,447 bit surprised that LiveWire came out that high. I think just. Maybe a lot of people are thinking 415 00:38:51,487 --> 00:38:56,391 about the MCU version of Klaue and thinking that there's no way that he would be able to 416 00:38:56,411 --> 00:39:00,715 defeat someone made out of lightning. That's my guess. That's probably a really good guess. 417 00:39:00,835 --> 00:39:08,181 Well, let's find out who won. AJ9K, the results please. Hey, Yuasa. The winner of the matchup 418 00:39:08,581 --> 00:39:22,364 between Livewire and Klaue is... fucking Klaue. Yeah! And it wasn't even Um, he won 693 of 419 00:39:22,404 --> 00:39:31,511 the 1000 matches or 69.3% compared to Livewire winning only 30.7. Okay, so Claude wins around 420 00:39:31,551 --> 00:39:36,855 two-thirds of the time. And honestly, like this baffles the shit out of me. Like I know the 421 00:39:36,975 --> 00:39:43,880 discrepancy in the fighting stat is pretty drastic, but damn, I thought I totally had you when 422 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,871 it came to like our speculation. and I came out of that really confident that Livewire 423 00:39:48,891 --> 00:39:54,334 would win, but apparently not. Well, it's hard to think of an instance in which this fight 424 00:39:54,414 --> 00:39:59,117 would come down to hand-to-hand combat, right? Right, exactly. But you would have to assume 425 00:39:59,137 --> 00:40:03,699 that fighting skill would play at least a small portion of some of the matches, and when you 426 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,682 run a thousand simulations, it was enough of an influence to give Claude the ultimate victory. 427 00:40:09,162 --> 00:40:15,085 It also just baffles me that sound can beat lightning energy. That's... I cannot comprehend 428 00:40:15,105 --> 00:40:20,393 that. but it's also hard to comprehend lightning energy beating sound too, right? No, not for 429 00:40:20,433 --> 00:40:24,697 me. I totally see it. But that does it for this duel. Let us know what you guys thought about 430 00:40:24,717 --> 00:40:31,182 the results by writing to us at dyna or by visiting us on Instagram or Twitter. 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